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Days of Our Lives newsletter contains information from and about
veterans of TUSLOG Det. 4, Sinop in addition to those from Det. 27,
Manzarali Station.I wish to thank all the contributors who have made this web site possible.
Bill Simons, Jan 31, 2010.
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Subject: Drafting Guys Over 60
Date: Tue, January 26, 2010 5:03:56 PM
From: "jjemiv@comcast.net" jjemiv@comcast.net
I thought you would get a kick out of this article about drafting guys over 60.About five years ago, I sent an application to the Army, and told them I wanted to re-up. I told them I wanted to allow some man or woman with a family, to be sent back to the states, and I would take their place in the war zone. They said "thanks, but no thanks" because I was over 60.
About 15 years ago, one of our bridges over train tracks was condemned, and the state said it would take about a year to replace it. A former Seabee from WW II sent a letter to the newspaper telling them he and his buddies would be glad to replace the bridge for the state, but because of their advanced age, instead of building a new bridge in one day, it would take them a week to finish the job.
John McOwen,
ASA - 056, 057 and 059
Sinop 60-61
Bad Aibling 61-62
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Drafting Guys Over 60
This is funny & obviously written by a Former Soldier...
New Direction for any war: Send Service Vets over 60!
I am over 60 and the Armed Forces thinks I'm too old to track down terrorists.
You can't be older than 42 to join the military. They've got the whole thing ass-backwards.
Instead of sending 18-year olds off to fight, they ought to take us old guys.
You shouldn't be able to join a military unit until you're at least 35.
For starters, researchers say 18-year-olds think about sex every 10 seconds.
Old guys only think about sex a couple of times a day, leaving us more than 28,000
additional seconds per day to concentrate on the enemy.
Young guys haven't lived long enough to be cranky, and a cranky soldier is a
dangerous soldier. 'My back hurts! I can't sleep, I'm tired and hungry.'
We are impatient and maybe letting us kill some asshole that desperately deserves
it will make us feel better and shut us up for awhile..
An 18-year-old doesn't even like to get up before 10am.
Old guys always get up early to pee, so what the hell. Besides, like I said, I'm tired
and can't sleep and since I'm already up, I may as well be up killing some fanatical son-of-a-bitch.
If captured we couldn't spill the beans because we'd forget where we put them.
In fact, name, rank, and serial number would be a real brainteaser.
Boot camp would be easier for old guys.. We're used to getting screamed and
yelled at and we're used to soft food. We've also developed an appreciation for guns.
We've been using them for years as an excuse to get out of the house, away from
the screaming and yelling.
They could lighten up on the obstacle course however... I've been in combat and
never saw a single 20-foot wall with rope hanging over the side, nor did I ever do
any push-ups after completing basic training.
Actually, the running part is kind of a waste of energy, too... I've never seen anyone outrun a bullet.
An 18-year-old has the whole world ahead of him.
He's still learning to shave, to start a conversation with a pretty girl.
He still hasn't figured out that a baseball cap has a brim to shade his eyes, not the back of his head.
These are all great reasons to keep our kids at home to learn a little more about life
before sending them off into harm's way.
Let us old guys track down those dirty rotten coward terrorists.
The last thing an enemy would want to see is a couple million pissed off old farts with
attitudes and automatic weapons, who know that their best years are already behind them.
HEY!! How about recruiting Women over 50...in menopause!!! You think MEN have attitudes??
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh my God!!! If nothing else, put them on border patrol..
They'll have it secured the first night!
God Bless America
And ALL Those
Serving in the Armed Forces .
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Date:Mon, January 25, 2010 5:46:35 PM
From: Brian Lee blee@sfbr.org
Subject: Sinop
I was in Sinop for 2 tours, 1984-85 and back again in 1987-1988.
I was in the Army side of the house.
Do you hear from a lot of the people from back then?
I am interested in being on the list of those who were there.
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I have some pictures of Bob Dog. I could scan one in to you.
It would be good to hear from some of the people from back then.
Brian E. Lee
Belee_1957@yahoo.com
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From: Charles Brown sfcchb46@hotmail.com
To: sinop3@eccoh.com
Date: Wed, December 23, 2009 11:33:17 AM
RE:Here are a couple of things that I have kept over the years from my stay at Sinop.
One is a certificate that was given to us and the other was a scroll with the history of Sinop, the town, on it.
I remember the shoe shine guy at the PX who used his fingers to apply the polish. Also riding in the back of a deuce and a half in the freezing cold to go out to Bankhead. One day we couldn't make it because the Turks got the grader stuck sideways in the snow.
That was the only station that I was at that had a formal Christmas meal.
We had hors d'oeuvres and wine at the table and a menu.
The fire drills were amusing. The Turkish fire brigade looked like they came out of a 19th century picture. Their uniforms were really something.
I have a terrible memory for names and faces, but I do remember that we had some pretty good times.
I think I will try to make the Toledo event. Maybe incorporate it into a road trip. Since I live in eastern PA, it's not that far to travel.C H Brown
PS The scroll is pink in color and was made on a TTY.
Image 1, Image 2, Image 3
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Dated November 14, 2008
Sat, December 12, 2009 12:15:26 AM
From: Ron Knief ronknief@sbcglobal.net
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NSA Documents on U.S. Cold War Intelligence Activities Released | The Public Record
Editor’s Note: George Washington University’s National Security Archive obtained from the highly secretive National Security Agency numerous documents related to U.S. Cold War Intelligence Activities. The information below detailing U.S. intelligence work during the Cold War was drafted by National Security Archives staff.Click HERE to read the complete document
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From: "HITHEM@aol.com" HITHEM@aol.com
To: sinop3@eccoh.com
Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 3:12:24 PM
Subject: Sinop?
Don't know what that has to do with Sinop, but I was in the 265th ASA Co during that year..
I arrived at Campbell in 1976 from DLI, Goodfellow and Devens. Back to DLI in 1978 for Intemediate
Arabic and then back to Campbell. in 1979. Off to RAF Menwith Hill, Yorkshire England for 6 month
tdy in 1979. I went to Panama in 1977 for Jungle School with the 1/506 from Campbell...1980 saw me reup
for NSA. I spent 6 years there //in GROF also// did a lot of tdy's to the Middle East..
I wanted to stay at NSA but they told me I had to go to Goodfellow //instructor and course supervisor//..
Trained the first ever Kuwaiti siginters and retired from the army in 1991. The reason I could
retire, then was because I first joined //ahead of the draft// ASA in 1967, and from 1970-71 spent
a year in Sunny/Windy Sinop.Got out, went back to college, got a history degree and went back into the ASA in 1975, spending almost a year at DLI taking basic Arabic //see beginning remarks// In 2001 I Applied to NSA and got hired in 2002. and that is where I'm at....
During my first 31/2 years in ASA, from 1967-1971, I was a communications center specialist 72B20 //tape ape//. At Sinop
I was at main ops for two weeks until they found out I had experience at BHII //Chitose Japan// They sent me out asap to Hippodrome at the end of the cliffs, where they monitored Tuya Tam and Kapustin Yar //big daddy Soviet missile launch pads//
Dan Hegland
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Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 01:20:46 -0500
Subject: 265th ASA Co, and NSA (AROF
From: Brian Wilhite bpwilhite@gmail.com
To: sinop3@eccoh.com
Does anyone know anyone who was in the 265th ASA Co in 1978?
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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 10:09:06 -0500
From: Brian Wilhite Brian Wilhite <bpwilhite@gmail.com>
To: sinop3@eccoh.com
Subject: Re: 265th ASA Co, and NSA (AROFHi Bill,
Thank you for responding to my e-mail. I was in the Army from 1976-1979. My MOS was 98C, which was an Electronic Warfare Traffic analyst. Basic training was Ft. Lost in the woods, misery (Ft. Leonardwood, Missouri), AIT was Goodfellow AFB, San Angelo TX (1977), Tactical training was Ft. Devens MA, and was finally PCS'ed to Ft. Campbell, KY, 265th ASA Co. (Fall 1977). January 1978 I was sent TDY to Ft. Meade, Md. I was attached to an ASA unit there for 3 months working in NSA. After returning to Ft. Campbell, I was then transferred permanently back to Ft. Meade, where I worked for NSA until my ETS in October 1979. I then Joined the Maryland Army National Gaurd 150th Avn Attack Helicopter Bn Headquartered in Belair, Md, but had its maintenance facility at Weide Army Airfield in Edgwood, Md. I stayed there until 1987 when I ETS'ed and launched my career in Aviation Maintenance Technology.
The main reason I am interested in these units is to re-establish contact with some of the friends I have neglected to stay in touch with.
I have tried other avenues on the internet to try and contact friends, but I come up short every time. I would be very grateful if you could post my inqueries on your site.
Thanks again,
Brian
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Sat, December 5, 2009 11:17:38 AM
From: "cal_105@peoplepc.com"
To: sinop3@eccoh.com
Cc: cbmays006@hotmail.com
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The Day Kennedy was Shot by C B Mays, Fort Worth, Texas
On November 22, 1963, the day Kennedy was shot, I was a twenty-two year old PFC stationed at TUSLOG Detachment 4-1, the Aviation and Liaison Section in Ankara, Turkey.
We provided support/liaison for Detachment 4, our parent unit, at Sinope {Army Security Agency]. I had been in Turkey since October 1962 . Most of our support, was provided by the Air Force in Ankara. We got limited support from Site 23 [Detachment 27-U S Army Security Agency] located about 30 miles outside Ankara, We ate Air Force food, lived in the Air Force Billets, shopped at the Air Force AFEX , and etc. I remember that when I received the news I was at a movie in an Air Force theater. It was at night about 2100 hours or so.
I used to be able to remember the name of the movie, but can’t recall it now after 46 years. I seem to remember that Lucille Ball and either Henry Fonda, or James Stewart starred in it, but have not been able to identify the title. It seemed to have the name mountain in its title. The movie was cut off abruptly, and an announcement was made by someone in the theater that the President had been shot and all personnel were to return to their resudences for further instructions. [I remember seeing the rest of the movie about ten years later on television]
At the time of the incident , I thought that they were referring to the President of Turkey, Ismet Inonu, since someone had shot at him just a few days before and tried to assassinate him on the streets of Ankara , but missed. I went to our office which was located near 110 Ataturk Boulevard, just across the street from the American Embassy in a building with the NSA. We had an old teletype machine that was picking up the news accounts as they came out of Dallas. I soon found out that that it was our President [Kennedy] who had been assassinated.
There were a lot of rumors etc, that the Russians were involved. We were placed on alert, and there was talk about how we would evacuate Turkey in case the Russians attacked. I remember that the 6th U S Navy Fleet would pick us up in Adana or southern Turkey. We would destroy all of our equipment. However, by the next morning, it begin to appear that the Russians were not involved. I remember that that night we listened on shortwave radio to Lyndon Johnson make a speech to the nation and the world.
I remember that during the rest of my tour [to May 15, 1964], the Turkish people were especially nice to us, and many express their condolences to military personnel. Later, I went to a Turkish movie theater to see a French movie, and when an news account was screened with an image of Kennedy standing at the Berlin Wall , the Turkish audience give him a standing ovation. That mean a lot to us Americans at the time.
When I left New York in late 1962, I had left Idle wild International Airport, but when I returned in 1964 is had been renamed Kennedy International Airport.
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:39:52 -0800 (PST)
From: "Ahab Marine Services, TA" ahab@ahabmarine.com
To: sinop3@eccoh.com
Subject: '58-'60
Sinop dogs I remember '58-'60:
Gimp - Grandaddy of them all
Fluff - shot by security gaurds
Goldie - Igor's mother.
Buster - Picked on Igor when he was a puppy, then Igor grew up and one day bit him in the ass!
Igor - Blackwood's puppy.
Ed Hatch
ahab@ahabmarine.com
Cell 410 812 7761
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:50:59 -0500
From: Frank R Andrews <hoggramps1@bellsouth.net>
To: sinop3@eccoh.com
Subject: Sinop Song DittyDuring my watch on The Hill (59-60) the troops sang a little song ditty:
Marehaba, Marahaba, _______________, ________________, Teshakaraderim, Teshakaraderim, Chokefinah, Chokefinah.
Does anybody remember what goes in the above Blanks ????? None of us Old Timers can remember.
Thanks
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Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:41:45 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
From: Gary Weber <triagain@embarqmail.com>
Subject: ASA - FOR ALL VETERAN'S HEALTH INFOAll veterans need to read this information. Bill
A LITTLE KNOW VETERAN BENEFIT -THAT YOU SHOULD PRINT OUT
AND FILE AS VETERANS NEWS & INFORMATION
"Aid and Attendance"
Regardless of your personal status, consider passing this along to all veterans,
families of veterans or individuals with veterans in their family.
"Aid and Attendance" is an underutilized special monthly pension benefit offered by
the Veterans Administration for veterans and surviving spouses who require in-home
care or live in nursing homes.
To qualify, a veteran (includes the surviving spouse) must have served at least 90 days
of active military service, one day of which is during a period of war, and must be
discharged under conditions other than dishonorable.
The veteran's benefit is $18,234 annually (paid monthly) and increases to $21,615 if
a veteran has one dependent. The surviving spouse alone is $11,715 annually.
For more information, call 1-800-827-1000
Visit http://www.va.gov (type "Aid and Attendance" in the search block),
or contact your local VA office. Apply on-line at
http://vabenfits.vba.va.gov/vonapp/main.asp
A LITTLE-KNOWN VETERANS' BENEFIT
By Paula Burkes
Published: February 8, 2009
A little-known veterans' benefit for long-term care expenses is available to wartime veterans
and their spouses. But the benefit is being overlooked by thousands of families, industry
observers say.
http://www.seniorcareforveterans.com/?OVRAW =Veterans'%
20Aid%20and%20Attendance&OVKEY=veteran%20aid%20
and%20attendance&OVMTC=standard&OVADID=21594888
521&OVKWID=196955357021
http://newsok.com:80/article/3344150
The Special Pension for Veterans' Aid and Attendance pays up to $1,644 a month, $19,736
annually, toward assisted living, nursing homes or in-home care for veterans 65 and older who
served at least 90 days and one day during wartime — stateside or overseas.
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Veterans and their spouses can receive up to $23,396 annually and spouses of deceased veterans,
$12,681. Yet, an estimated $22 billion a year goes unclaimed, said Don Soard, a volunteer with
Operation Veteran Aid in Oklahoma City. In 2007, only 134,000 seniors nationwide received the
benefit, which was established in 1952. "Literally hundreds of thousands don't even know about
it," Soard said. "Due to incomplete information, many disqualify themselves on income or assets
or find the paperwork too burdensome."
Streamlined process -
Soard helps families complete the necessary forms, so that approval comes in four to six months.
The process is streamlined for vets who are blind or have memory issues and widows with
medical needs, he said. Most applicants qualify and payments are retroactive, Soard said. The
few who are denied on excessive liquid assets can seek financial advice to qualify, he said.
Soard started his volunteer mission two years ago, following the deaths of two family members
who served in WWII. "If they'd known about this benefit, they'd have a much better quality of
life in later years," he said. "Without it, many vets are forced to go on Medicaid."
Oklahoma is one of nine states where the welfare program doesn't cover assisted living costs.
Assisted living often can be an alternative to a nursing home when 24-hour skilled care is not
an absolute need, said Willie Ferguson, executive director of ‘Legend at Rivendell’ in Oklahoma
City ..."But if someone just has Social Security and a small pension, it's not enough to live here,"
Ferguson said. According to a 2008 MetLife survey, assisted living in Oklahoma averages
$2,346 a month, while nursing homes cost $153 a day for a private room. Of 73 Legend
residents, nine receive the veterans' special pension, including Tom Bowen, 77, of Moore ...
Until I toured this operation, I had no idea the benefit was available," said Bowen, a retired
engineer technician from the Federal Aviation Administration who served stateside during the
Korean Conflict. Bowen recently moved into the Legend facility following several mini strokes
and a diagnosis of short-term memory loss. "It's been pretty hard trying to handle expenses on
my own and being able to replace savings," said Marie Bowen, his wife of 57 years. Finding a
nearby facility and learning about the special veterans' pension has been a godsend, she said.
DE Oppresso Liber
Mel Smith
Secretary
Special Forces Association
PO Box 41436
Fayetteville, NC 28309-1436
Telephone (910) 485-5433 Fax (910) 485-1041
email: sfahq@aol.com
Website:http://www.specialforcesassociation.org/
"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings.
The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. "
Winston Churchill
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From: "EdMar" drdef@comcast.net
To: <sinop3@eccoh.com>
Subject: Sinop Pages
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:36:44 -0400
Hi All old timers
My name is Ed Fielding and was on the Rock from March 1963 thru June 1964. Made SP4 on the Hill
Where are the web pages and some of those pictures many of you speak of?
Thanks
(In GOD we Trust, ALL others we monitor)
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Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 12:54:33 -0700
From: Brian Westlake mcbrii@hotmail.com
To: sinop3@eccoh.com
Subject: Sinop 1984 - 1985
I had a chance to look through your Sinop webpages and it sure brought back a lot of memories.
I had some great memories of my time stationed on the base. It was nice seeing all the pictures.
I was a 98J and worked at hipprodome.
Brian Westlake
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From: "Rich Swearingen" <rrswear@comcast.net>
To: <sinop3@eccoh.com>
Subject: found pictures!
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:49:17 -0700
Hello to all, my name is Richard “Dick” Swearingen; I was part of the Southwind crew on the Rock, in 1958/59.
I was trained at Fort Monmouth, NJ. as a 283 MOS electronic technician. I went on to become
a System engineer, at ESL which later was acquired by TRW. After 20 years, I retired from TRW in Sunnyvale, CA.
I’m enjoying my retirement now at our home in the Foothills of the Sierra just outside of Jackson, CA.
Here are some photo’s I ran across that may bring back some memories to other guys that spent some time on the rock
First picture is me coming back from a 10 day leave in Greece on the Black Sea Steamer. I had a great time in Athens and met some of the best looking girls I’d ever seen. For a 21 year old GI I thought I’d died and went straight to heaven. Of course it had been 8 months since I’d seen any women who weren’t covered up by their shawls any time they saw a GI coming down the street.
Second picture is one of our favorite pastimes; a little poker. Players are L-R, are: unknown, then me facing inward by back showing then I think it’s Collins, finally I think it’s Arnold Steffen requesting a card,
Third is of the famous old Greek landmark on the Rock; a site that is burned into my memory for all time.
Rich
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Click HERE to see Rich's pictures
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Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 13:41:33 -0500
From: Phil Rimmer phil@pirossigns.com
To: sinop3@eccoh.com
Subject: TUSLOG Det 4 Memories & curiosities
God luv ya for being the Maintenance Chief of our beautiful seaside hilltop bivouac paradise duty call.
I was the Company Clerk in 1970. ASA.gif
Always wondered whatever happened to Top Stanton. Your roll call pages cut off @ L..
How to I see the rest Ron?
Thanks for being the caretaker buddy.
Phil Rimmer
mailto:phil@pirossigns.com phil@pirossigns.com ext.105
http://www.pirossigns.com/ www.pirossigns.com
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 04:11:28 -0500
From: sinop3@eccoh.com
To: Phil Rimmer phil@pirossigns.com
Subject: Re: TUSLOG Det 4 Memories & curiosities/Phil Rimmer, 1970.
Hi Phil,
The Roll Call pages have been divided into two files, A-L and M-Z.
If you go back to the site, click on Roll Call then File M-Z.
Here is the listing for a Stanton from 1970.
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STANTON, JOSEPH M (SINOP - 1970) fuss2bun@msn.com
11825 92nd Ave Ct E Puyallup WA 98373
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I hope the information is up-to-date.
Best regards,
Bill Simons
Manager, US Military/Sinop website.
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 16:00:06 -0400
From: Lantern Bearer lantern.bearer@gmail.com
To: sinop3@eccoh.com
Subject: Sinop Pics - Current
Is Bill Simons still the Room Lead here?
Here is an interesting set of pics that are placed in and around the now defunct Sinop prison.
http://www.gezenbilir.com/index.php?topic=6755.msg72436
It is a big site and a lot of large pics. It takes some time to load on slow connections.
I see my last submissions were in 1997. My web presence is marked by Sinop imagery.
Lantern Bearer is my most common. I now limit myself to reddit and to Twitter.
Twitter me by way of @ZenBonobo.
Catch me on reddit as LanternBearer
John Newcome
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Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 06:57:58 -0500
From: sinop3@eccoh.com
To: Brian Warren fishrangeley@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Sign Up/Brian Warren Sinop
Hi again Brian,
Your information will be automatically addded to Ron Sowinski's personnel files and should show up there with the next update in a few weeks.
If you wish to set up a personal page and have your name shown on the main page at the Sinop site just send along a few paragraphs of stories/recollections of your time on the Hill. Pictures of Det. 4 and of you then and now could be added as well.
You can send text items in an email message and photos as JPG attachments.
Let me know if you have any other questions,
Bill
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Quoting Brian Warren <fishrangeley@gmail.com>:
> Hi-
> I was stationed at Sinop from 1979-1980 and again from 1990-1991. Had two
> wonderful tours and have fondest memories of those years. How do I sign up?
>
> Thanks for your help,
> brian
> --
> Brian Warren
> Consultant
> Partners for Performance, Inc.
> 74 McCard Road
> P.O. Box 563
> Rangeley, ME 04970
> Tel: 207-864-0914
> Cell: 207-522-5564
> email: fishrangeley@gmail.com
> www.partnersforperformance.com
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Date: Feb. 13, 2009.
From: Wayne Dyer (via USPS)
Subject: Latrine photo from 1969During the water shortage in the Summer of 1969, the barracks latrines were locked and no showers for 13 days.
The enclosed photo shows the outhouses next to the Hq. and Hqs. Co.
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 9:05:43 -0800
From: Steve Jellison <sjellison@charter.net>
To: sinop3@eccoh.com
Subject: Steve Jellison
I was a member of the class of '61-'62. (058 ditty bopper) Started out living in quansit huts and finally moving to concrete dorms. Mission was busy due to lots of space activity from our friends across the sea.
The British contingent were great friends and I hold many fond memories of them.I can't believe that Sinop is now a stop
for a number of cruise lines.
I remember a great first shirt that tolerated a lot of drunk kids trying to make their 11 month tour livable.
Steve Jellison
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From: Jake Jacobsen <jakeoj@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:21:27 -0800
Please add me to the Sinop Det-4 list on your site:.I was stationed on The Hill from Sep'79-Sep'80 as a 98J. I don't recall as much as I would like to about my time
there but do have some fond memories of shift work out at Hippy where I trained on most of the antenna positions,
tape and wound up as the an Internals Analyst for our trick.
While we took a couple of weekend trips to Samsun and frequent trips to town and to both beaches, I probably spent most of my time at the main club or Sportsman's Club on base.
Through your site I'm hoping to refresh some of my memories - I had forgotten about Circe and Marcus so it was great to read stories about the Hippy dogs that were there during my stay.
I still have a handful of photographs from Sinop though most of those I originally had have been lost through numerous moves and life changes. If I wind up with a page on your site, I'll send a few your way with a sentance or two on each one...
SGT Dwain "Jake" Jacobsen
98J US Army
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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 14:22:12 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
From: "Frank R Andrews" hoggramps1@bellsouth.net
Subject: Identified
Approx 2 months ago I submitted the following Photo for identification.
The Gentleman was stationed on The Hill during period 59-60.
He has been identified as Charles Ahern..... NOW, can anybody tell me
where he worked or what he did ???? Thanks
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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:21:27 -0800
From: Jake Jacobsen <jakeoj@hotmail.com>
To: sinop3@eccoh.com
Subject: [No Subject]
Bill,
Please add me to the Sinop Det-4 list on your site:
I was stationed on The Hill from Sep'79-Sep'80 as a 98J. I don't recall as much as I would like to about my time there but do have some fond memories of shift work out at Hippy where I trained on most of the antenna positions, tape and wound up as the an Internals Analyst for our trick. While we took a couple of weekend trips to Samsun and frequent trips to town and to both beaches, I probably spent most of my time at the main club or Sportsman's Club on base.
Through your site, I'm hoping to refresh some of my memories - I had forgotten about Circe and Marcus, so it was great to read stories about the Hippy dogs that were there during my stay.
I still have a handful of photographs from Sinop though most of those I originally had have been lost through numerous moves and life changes. If I wind up with a page on your site, I'll send a few your way with a sentence or two on each one...
SGT Dwain "Jake" Jacobsen
98J, US Army
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 15:16:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Michael Porter usasavet6872@yahoo.com
Subject: Sinop Turkey
Anyone here recall a James(Jim)Girbert who would have been there in or around 1966-1969????????
He may have been a mechanic or in maint. He was a neighbor of mine when i lived in Grove City,Ohio.
Tks.
Mike Porter
USASA 1968-1972
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Brian, Thanks for the photo tip.
I tried to acknowledge receipt of your message but your ISP refused to accept my Email. Bill
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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:48:25 -0500
From: Brian Alpert balpert1@nyc.rr.com
To: sinop3@eccoh.com
Subject: old washed up photos
Bill
I just read Frank Dreano's post about his over exposed or faded pictures of Sinop.
He really should try having them scanned rather then processed the old fashioned way.
As a professional photographer who started out first shooting and processing black and white many years ago
it never ceases to amaze me how digitalization saves old negatives that back in the old days we would have
s..t canned as unprintable.
Brian Alpert
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Subject: The Best Christmas I ever Had
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:32:22 -0600
From: "D'Angelo, Robert Sal \(Bob\)" rsdangelo@alcatel-lucent.com
To: <sinop3@eccoh.com>
Hi All
I was a Spec 5 in Det 169 in 1967- 1968. Worked in Tech Control.
Looking back after 40 + Years. I think one of the best Christmas I ever spent was with guys in Det 169 and Det 4.
They were good times even if we were far away from home. But we weren't alone.
I always wanted know what happened to guy who order wire name was Linus after the character in Snoopy.
If anybody knows send my some email.
Merry Christmas !!!!!
Bob D'Angelo
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Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 10:23:58 -0800 (PST)
From: JOHN MICHAEL HOUSE housefamily4@verizon.net
Subject: Merry Christmas
To: sinop2@eccoh.com
All of us who spent a Christmas on the hill experienced a lonely holiday thousands of miles from our families.
Yet if you are like me, it was also one of my most memorable.
In this time of economic and political uncertainty, I and my family wish everyone a Merry Christmas.
God Bless,
Mike House
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Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:08:36 -0500
From: Frank Dreano fdreano@earthlink.net
To: sinop2@eccoh.com
Well - my old photos are really washed out - I have the negatives and will see if anybody still develops pictures from them....if I have success I'll pass them along.
I attach a picture of me (was I ever that young?) and my 'get out of Sinop free card'.....this was my ticket off the site on emergency leave when my Dad was seriously injured in a car wreck.
Took me two days and a night of travel across Turkey at age 20 by myself to get to the airport to fly home (I just missed the mail plane flying outbound from Sinop)...I hitched rides on tractors, horse carts, you-name-it and didn't speak a word of Turkish...
Looks like the officer that signed it was named Walker but can't say I remember him.
Frank Dreano
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Click HERE to see the picture . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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Hi Frank,
Thanks for the email.
I sure would like to see and post those photos on the Sinop website.
I'll send a copy of this message along to Ron Sowinski so he can add your information to his Sinop personnel pages.
Best regards,
Bill Simons
Manager, US Military/Sinop website
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Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:08:36 -0500
From: Frank Dreano <fdreano@earthlink.net>
Subject: Sinop vet from '72-'73
I worked ELINT at Sinop for about 5 months before my father was seriously hurt in a car wreck and I was PCS'ed to Norfolk, Va. and finally got out on a hardship discharge.
I think I have some old photos of me and some buddies wandering around the local ruins and downtown as well....I'll try to find them and send them to you.
Frank Dreano
Spec-4 98J
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Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:36:02 -0500
From: Steve Smith stevesmith@byteone.com
Cc: "Windham, Mike COL" mike.windham@us.army.mil
Subject: Esek 011 - FOIA Request
Bill,
I received a heavily didacted copy of the crash report back in September. I thought I sent you and Mike Windham a copy back them, but now that I tried to send it to somebody else I recall that it's a huge (135Meg) file and it locks up my email client when I try to attach. Does your web site have an FTP option or any other way to share large files?
Basically, the investigators blame the pilots, the command, and the weather and say that one engine was out before the plane hit the ground. They found fault with the pilots (and the command for allowing it) for using the weather radar as a navigation device. They would change the range on the weather radar when they expected they were so many miles out and look for the distinctive outline of the Sinop peninsula. There also seems to be a question whether they were flying VFR in IFR conditions and possible deviation from the regular flight path. They also say that one of the pilots did not get enough rest after returning from Christmas leave in CONUS.
Thanks,
Steve Smith
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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:11:04 -0500
From: ElmerBoggs eboggs@comcast.net
To: sinop2@eccoh.com
Subject: SinopI would like to get included in the list for the Sinop Turkey veterans.
I served there from June 63-December 65. I was a trick chief in operations and used to yell a lot at Frisco, Moorhead, and P-Van and I left there as a Spec 5.
Elmer Boggs
Jacksonville Florida
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Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 10:40:13 EST
From: "Gary Goldacker" GoldackerG@aol.com
To: sinop2@eccoh.com
Subject: TUSLOG, Det 4
I was glad to find the page for Sinop and see names that are still familiar to me.
It was amazing to see the pictures of modern Sinop; what a change!I am Gary Goldacker and I served at Sinop from Feb '62 to Dec '62 as the mail clerk. I was doing this when we moved the mailroom from the old Quonset hut into the new permanent building.
A couple of other people I remember serving with are Sam Shepherd, payroll clerk and Ernie Boardman, both of whom were from Texas.
Like a number of others, I went from Sinop to Ft. Huachuca (52d USASASOC)
I have just retired after 40 years ministry as an Episcopal priest.
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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:46:35 -0600
From: leesutton@mail.utexas.edu
To: billsimons@yahoo.com
Subject: Sinop
Hello Bill,
I found Sowinski's personnel list on Google and finally sent him my info for inclusion.
I was on the hill from Dec '61 to Dec '62 and have scanned 50 photos- color slides of Sinop and B/W snapshots of guys around barracks etc. from that time into the computer. I asked Ron if there was a site where I could upload and share them - he suggested I might talk to you about it.From your info on the list, I missed you by a year. I recently got the people at Apple to show me
how to post on a page in ".Mac" and have been organizing my photos into an album for posting there. I've also written to a couple of GI's from the list who were my contemporaries in Sinop. When I left Turkey, I was sure I never wanted to hear about Sinop ever again. From the comfortable distance of 45 years, it seems kind of quaint.
Yours, Lee Sutton
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Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:14:23 -0500
From: Leon and Judy Brown browngang@mindspring.com
To: sinop2@eccoh.com
Subject: Sinop July '70 - August '71
Hi,
My name is Leondus (Lee) Brown and I was stationed on "The Hill" 1970-71 as a dental specialist and medic in the dispensary. the Dentist I worked for was Jesus Lopez, and the Doctor was Steve Morgan. I've noticed very few folks posting from this period in the life of Det 4.
During this period, we lost four of our comrades to death: two to heart attacks and two to a sail boat accident. Does anybody remember the names of the guys killed in the sailboat accident? One was a young Lieutenant and the other a civilian (American) employee. Sad that I should forget their names, as I was only 19 years old and had done dental work on both of them shortly before their death. The accident was quite traumatic for all of us who were stationed there.
Also during this period, there was an uprising of the Turkish Liberation Front and marshal law was declared. It was kind of a frightening time to be in Turkey.
Anybody remember the hijacked Russian plane that landed at our flightline?
But my time there was not all bad. I got to shoot my first "Russian" wild boar on a hunt through the Sinop Sportsman's Club and had several good fishing trips and dove hunts with them. Anybody on here frequent the club? Anybody remember the wild piglet we captured and raised to adulthood? Her name was "Jackie" and was named after the head of the Sportsman's club Jack ___? (he was a little on the rotund side).
As the years have passed, so have many of the memories from my time on The Hill. I am so glad that I found this site to help restore those memories.
Ismarladik (or gule gule)
Lee Brown
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From: hoggramps1@bellsouth.net
To: sinop2@eccoh.com
Subject: Sinop Soldier
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:29:49 +0000Bill --- We were on the Hill together in 59 & 60. I am attaching a Pic of an individual that was stationed there during our tenure. Three other Sinopians that were on the Hill during that time cannot ID him. Do you know who he is or someone that might. Hope all is well with you and thanks.
Frank
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Sorry Frank, the face looks a little familiar but can't put a name to him/.
Does anyone else know who this is??
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Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:00:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Al Green <asagreenhornet@yahoo.com>
Subject: PIX OF OUR OLDEST SON IN IRAQ
To: Elder Green <asagreenhornet@yahoo.com>
Hi Friends,
We just received this foto of our oldest son who is stationed at Belot AFB in Iraq.
He is in charge of the Physical Therapy clinic at Belot.
He is pointing to Tucson where his wife and 2 sons are residing.while he is away.Elder & Patty Green
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Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:31:31 -0400
From: Steve Smith stevesmith@byteone.com
Subject: WBOK radio
To alleviate some of the boredom of the hill I volunteered to be a disc jockey for the base radio station - KBOK. Bok is sh-t in Turkish. We had a small broadcasting studio close to the main quadrangle and closed circuit transmission lines (no radio antennae) strung throughoit the base. Your radio had to be within so many feet of one of the lines to pick up KBOK.
When one of the volunteers wasn't broadcasting we piped through the Armed Forces Radio Network. We had a real loose schedule - if somebody felt like doing a show, we each had a key to the studio and would just drop in and broadcast.
..... snip .....
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To read the rest of Steve's message, please click HERE and go to his personal page.
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Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:58:10 -0400
From: Steve Smith stevesmith@byteone.com
To: sinop2@eccoh.com
Subject: ASA - The Crash of Esek 011
I was recently reminiscing about my Army days and my tour at Tuslog Det. 4 in Sinop, Turkey and decided to try Googling it. I was very surprised and delighted to find your site and I've been reading the archives all weekend. Of particular interest was the section on the crash of Ashak (Turkish spelling Esek) 011.
I was stationed in Sinop 76-77 as a lab technician (92B) at the dispensary. I was actually transported to Sinop aboard one of Esek Airlines' two twin-propeller planes when the crew found me at an Ankara hotel awaiting a next-day THY flight to Samsun. I gladly accepted the ride after hearing horror stories about THY and their part-time Turkish Air Force pilots, and my flight from Rome to Ankara aboard a Pan Am flight had been especially turbulent with a passenger very close to my seat making liberal use of the air-sickness bags. We flew from Ankara to Istanbul to pick up mail and then on to Sinop. My first sight of the hill was from above as the pilot buzzed it to let those below know that mail was aboard.
..... snip .....
For the rest of Steve's interesting message go to his personal page - Click HERE
..... snip .....
Please keep up the great work with your site and thanks for the work that you do to maintain it.
Best Regards,
Steve Smith
Massillon, Ohio
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Hi Frank,My Email reply (shown below) was bounced back from your ISP as undeliverable.
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 07:28:37 -0500
From: sinop2@eccoh.com
To: Frank R Andrews <hoggramps1@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re:Sinop/Frank R. Andrews 59-60
Hi Frank,
I'll send a copy of your message to Ron Sowinski so he can correct his Sinop personnel files.
Your name sounds familiar, have we been in contact before?
I was there from Dec. 59-Dec. 60 so maybe I recall your name from that time some 48-49
years ago but then knowing my current mental state, I doubt it.
If you would like to write down some of your memories of that fateful year and any current
biographical information that you would like to share, I would be most happy to set up a personal
page for you at the web site.
Some of your pictures of Sinop and the Hill would also be appreciated.
Best regards,
Bill Simons
Manager, US Military/Sinop web site
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Quoting Frank R Andrews <hoggramps1@bellsouth.net>:
> On the Roll Call page it lists me as also being on the hill in 73-74..
> I was only there once and that was 59-60; And, those memories are still
> there as if it was yesterday. It was not only an adventure but also an
> education....
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Subject: Sinop Turkey 66-67 Bill's Homepage
Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008 6:35 PM
From: "Guy Zimmerman" guyzimm@fuse.net
Hi,
I came across your page while I was looking at the ASA page.I was on the hill at Sinop 1966-1967.
Guy D. Zimmerman SP5 Electronic Equip repair. RA15650298
I would like to be on the page if it's possible.
Guy D Zimmerman
161 Sulphur Springs Drive
Batavia, Ohio 45103
guyzimm@fuse.net
Thanks
Guy
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Bill replied:
Hi Guy,
I would be happy to set up a personal page for you at the Sinop site.
Send along some information/stories of your year at Sinop and any
pictures that you would like to accompany them and I would be happy
to set you up.
Swearingen's page was one of the recent ones that we added.
You might use that as a sort of guide.
I look forward to working with you on it.
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From: "Charles Masters" elkhound52@comcast.net
Subject: Det 4, SINOP
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 16:59:45 -0600
Name: Charles "Cliff" Masters (SSG)
Assigned to Det 4, SINOP: Sep 1981 - Sep 1982
Hello,
I see that a majority of the folks posted on this website date back a little further in time than I do. It is kind of like a generational break differentiated by those serving under ASA and those under INSCOM.
After a break in service, I reenlisted in May 79. Walked off the street and found myself at Ft. Devens attending the 98J course. Enjoyed Ft. Devens and surrounding area. I brought my wife Kathi and daughter Dacia with me, putting them up in a small apartment in Leominster. About went broke on E-2 pay! Got rank back pretty quick being prior service.
First assignment after Devens was Ft. Carson, CO. 104th MI Bn, 4th ID. Only there 18 months. Went back to Devens during that time for advanced 98J courses.
Orders for Det 4 SINOP came around May 81. TDY to Devens and leave in route to Det 4. Left wife pregnant with our second child, (daughter Dana).
Left for Istanbul 13 Sep 81, leaving JFK Intl. Exhausting trip. Made a prearranged phone call at the Istanbul airport. An American in civvies came and picked us up in an Army van. Crashed out at the Cinar Hotel in Istanbul. Awakened only for the last leg of the trip to Sinop via single engine prop Army plane.
. . . . . snip . . . .
((For the rest of Charles Master's bio go back to the Sinop main page and click on his name.))
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From: "Earle Burger" <earleburger@hughes.net>
To: <sinop2@eccoh.com>
Subject: Please note the below email
Hi Earle,
Glad to hear from you. I was up in Sinop Det 4 in 1967 and 1968 but
Did have contact with a couple of folks down at Det 27. Was so long ago
That I don't remember their names. Wish I could get in touch with more
Folks from Det 4 from my period. Check with Bill Simons. He knows a lot
About who was where when. (the 4 W's). Site: Simon's Mail Bag......
Take Care,
Bill
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I am trying to find people who may have been at Det 27 during the years 1963 - 1965. Can you help me?
Earle
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Bill Simons: Earle, I've forwarded your request to Elder Green who posts the Days of Our Lives newsletter
which contains information about Det. 27 personnel as well as those from Sinop.
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Rich, I tried to send you this Email reply but Comcast considered it SPAM and wouldn't accept it.
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:42:37 -0500
From: sinop2@eccoh.com
To: Rich Swearingen <rrswear@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: suggestioin for site/Thanks
Hi Rich,
Sorry for the delay in answering your message but everything seems to take
longer as one grows older (at least in my case).
I will take your suggestion under consideration and check with a few regular
readers to see what they think.
Best regards,
Bill
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Quoting Rich Swearingen <rrswear@comcast.net>:
I hope you don't mind a suggestion as I reliaze that the original effort and up-keep was - is a task in itself.
However, I would suggest the names be listed by last name first which would make looking up folks. easier.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Webmaster asks:
What do you as one of our regular visitors think?Should we change the personal page listings on the Home pagre from "First name Second name" to
"Second name, First name"?
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From: "Charles Masters" <elkhound52@comcast.net>
To: <sinop2@eccoh.com>
Subject: Det 4, SINOP
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 16:59:45 -0600
Name: Charles "Cliff" Masters (SSG)
Assigned to Det 4, SINOP: Sep 1981 - Sep 1982
Hello,
I see that a majority of the folks posted on this website date back a little further in time than I do. It is kind of like a generational break differentiated by those serving under ASA and those under INSCOM.
After a break in service, I reenlisted in May 79. Walked off the street and found myself at Ft. Devens attending the 98J course. Enjoyed Ft. Devens and surrounding area. I brought my wife Kathi and daughter Dacia with me, putting them up in a small apartment in Leominster. About went broke on E-2 pay! Got rank back pretty quick being prior service.
First assignment after Devens was Ft. Carson, CO. 104th MI Bn, 4th ID. Only there 18 months. Went back to Devens during that time for advanced 98J courses.
Orders for Det 4 SINOP came around May 81. TDY to Devens and leave in route to Det 4. Left wife pregnant with our second child, (daughter Dana).
Left for Istanbul 13 Sep 81, leaving JFK Intl. Exhausting trip. Made a prearranged phone call at the Istanbul airport. An American in civvies came and picked us up in an Army van. Crashed out at the Cinar Hotel in Istanbul. Awakened only for the last leg of the trip to Sinop via single engine prop Army plane.
Airlines lost my duffel bag. Worked at Sinop for about 3 months in civilian clothes before duffle bag finally showed up. Got a little teasing from fellow troops. "When you going to get some uniforms?"
Landed on a small airfield with Sinop between us and the hill. Truck ride the rest of the way. Some sights suggested I had stepped back in time. Very interesting. I was pretty much clueless!
Didn't volunteer for Sinop but made the best of it while there. Enjoyed the mission and toured Turkey when time and money allowed. Lots of Biblical history there. Took advantage of chapel sponsored tours as well as those by the MWR. Van trips to Samsun. A small cruise ship to Trabazon. Shopping and restaurant trips to down town Sinop. Shop keepers very friendly. Food not bad. Got sicker than a dog after one night out. We're talking about projectile vomiting and explosive diarrhea! Had to crawl to the dispensary for an injection.
Worked with a US Navy Det on the operations floor. They worked different signals from what we were after. Also had a Turkish NCO on our crew. He was very smart and spoke English well. He was a stamp collector. I gave him what I could collect from home and relatives. Wish I had made arrangements to stay in touch.
No real problems with water shortages during my tour. The mess hall was good. On Thanksgiving the Turkish soldiers/guards ate most of the turkey up before we could get there after our shift. I noticed they loved our sliced bread. All pitched in and made an effort to make Christmas special. Plenty of food and drink.
Felt isolated from the world. Bought a SW Radio so to pick up the BBC and other news outlets. A life saver. Read a lot of books when not traveling. The tiny post library was not bad.
Living on the hill was like living in a fish bowl. Everybody know what everybody else was doing. No hanky panky escaped unnoticed.
Terrible with names after all of these years. Remember a fellow troop by the name of Charles Pendergraph or similar last name. Commander was COL, F.X. Toomey.
The C-130 plane ride out of Sinop was an experience! Made the mistake of eating a large mess hall breakfast. SOS on a shingle and other stuff. Couldn't find a barf bag on the plane so just choked it down so not to make anyone else sick.
Last assignment was the 519th MI Bn, Ft Bragg. Not much going on in the unit when there. It was newly formed. Just busy work. Got out of the army JUN 83 when my enlistment was up. Tired of living out of a suitcase! Moved back to Colorado Springs. In 84, hooked up with the Air Force as a DoD civilian. Have been with the Air Force Engineering and Technical Services (AFETS), (series 1670, Equipment Specialist) since 89. Currently assigned to HQ AFSPC, Peterson AFB, CO. Will retire from civil service at the end of Aug this year. Not sure what line of work I want to do next. The military has been good to me and family since the day I was drafted in 1972. No regrets!
Hope to find others that served with me at Sinop. Some names on the roster seem very familiar but not positive yet.
Best wishes to all,
Charles "Cliff" Masters
Colorado Springs, CO
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From: Michael Dick Michael.Dick@park.edu
To: sinop2@eccoh.com
Subject: Sinop 1971 - 1972
Bill,
I was with the AF from Feb 1871 - Feb 1972. I thought it was the remotest part of Turkey until I got stationed at Sahin Tepesi in 1984.
Diogenes Army Post was the official name of the site and I remember what Sinop stood for:
Sex Is Not Our Policy
I lived in Lincoln Hall and remember all the senior NCOs lived in the limberdick.
I was there when the put the finishing touches on the FLR-12 that was relocated from Samsun.
When I left, Samsun was snowed in and I took a cab with four Army guys to Ankara.
I remember this as the 'ride into hell!'
Mike Dick
Knob Noster, MO
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Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:14:49 -0400
From: Brian Alpert balpert1@nyc.rr.com
To: sinop2@eccoh.com
Subject: convoy photo
Bill
When I left Sinop in May 1965 I went by convoy. I was supposed fly to Ankara but when I arrived with my gear to get my ride to the airport I was told the plane was not flying that day and they did not know if it would be fixed by the next day or so.The convoy was parked in the same area getting ready to leave. I was friendly with the MP who was on convoy duty heard the conversation and invited me to go with him via convoy. I got to ride up front instead of in the back of a deuce and a half.
I just found this photo which I took along the way. I guess we must have stopped for lunch.
If you want you can add it to my page.
Brian Alpert
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Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:14:41 -0600
From: Adam Baroumand <adammapple@hotmail.com>
Subject: DOOM SINOP Silver-plated Tankard
Hi, I wanted to everyone that i just ran across this site as i posted a DOOM SINOP Tankard on eBay.
I figured someone on this site might be interested to have it or really knows what this item is.
Starting at one cent.
The auction can be found here: (Bidding expires Mar-23-08 20:25:27 PDT)
http://cgi.ebay.com/Mappin-Silver-Plate-Goblet-engraved-DOOM-SINOP_W0QQitemZ190207250334QQcmdZViewItem?
hash=item190207250334
Let me know if you have any questions,
Adam
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Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 23:28:03 -0700
From: Jim PHILLIPS prospectorjim@msn.com
Subject: Sinop Coins
Merhaba!
After three months, I've only heard from one individual, so I'm guessing a Sinop or Karamursel coin
is not going to make an appearance any time soon.
Thanks for supporting my idea!
Jim Phillips
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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:17:47 -0500
From: Bill Simons sinop2@eccoh.com
To: Paul White swhite10@insightbb.com
Subject: Re: Jim LogsdonHi Paul,
Sorry for the delay but I was working on my Income Taxes and when I do that nothing else gets done!The name Jim Logsdon does not ring any bells with me.
Most of my Hill memories are filtered through an alcoholic fog and so my recollections of that year are very dim.I checked the Roll Call lists and did not find his name there either.
I'll post your message on the Mailbag Page and perhaps someone who also knew him will get in touch.
Best regards,
Bill Simons
Manager, US Military/Sinop web site.
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Quoting Paul White swhite10@insightbb.com:
Did you by any chance know Jim Logsdon that served on the hill while you were there?
My name is Paul White from Det 27 Ankara and I went to high school with Jim.
If you knew Jim I could possible get you in contact with him.
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Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:43:04 -0600 (CST)
From: gpeale@verizon.net
Subject: Sinop Turkey
Hello,
Discovered this site. Brings back a lot of memories. I was assigned to Det. 4 from Mar. 1977 to April 1978.
I was a 33G, SP-5. I very much enjoyed the pictures and stories. Thank you
Best regards,
Gary Peale
7142 Keynote
Long Beach, CA 90808
(562) 421-1667
(562) 355-5320
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From: "Bob Black" bobtxtyler342@earthlink.net
Subject: Tuslog Det 4
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 14:35:19 -0800
Dear Bill,
For some unexplained reason, I Googled "karahani" the other day, after watching a program about a Turkish family on PBS' "Nova". Your Eccoh.com came up, and I read it with a great deal of interest.
I Googled again today and found your REAL homepage and decided to write.
I was USNNSG, CT3, stationed in Sinop 1966-67, after having gone through my Yeni training in Karamursel. We had roughly 25-30 Navy personnel on the base at any given time. My year in Turkey (especially the Hill) was one of the most professionally rewarding experiences in my life. I wish I had been older than 20 then, so that I could have taken more time to enjoy the culture.
I won't make this long. Just wanted to say "Thank You" for bringing back memories that have long been buried. I will go through your home page in the next few days and relive some of the past.
Thanks again.
Bob Black, CT3
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From: "Charlie R" <crodrigues@twcny.rr.com>
To: <sinop2@eccoh.com>
Subject:
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:21:47 -0500
Bill.....In DOOL 176, Don McFeaters wrote about meeting Dave Cross in the Galleria Mall in Johnstown, Pa.
I've tried many times to reach Don M at the phone number listed and at his email address, and
get nothing at either.
If any can help, or maybe live near the Mall, I would greatly appreciate it if you could have
Dave Cross contact me. Don said that Dave had a jewelry suite in the Mall.My email address is crodrigues@twcny.rr.com or phone @ 315 487 1195.
Thank's all!!!
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Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:56:50 -0700
From: linda spencer lapspencer@msn.com
Subject: change of email address
Bill,
When you find the time, please change the email address on my picture page to lapspencer@msn.com .
I'm happy to report that the reason for this change is my recent retirement from 33 years of teaching, so my old school address will no longer work.
Also if you have time, could you replace the text on my page that says LT Jack Fortini was my replacement it should read I was Lt Jack Fortini's replacement. He clarified that fact in an email; over the years I have received a number of emails from people who were with me on The Hill, and I'm very grateful to you for making this all possible by maintaining the web site.
Allahismarladik.
Frank Spencer
Det 4 '72-'73
Tucson, Arizona
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Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:08:46 EST
From: OldTymFoto@aol.com
Subject: looking for Joel Cohen
I served "on the Hill" in 1969-1970. Was good friends with Joel Cohen who
was a linguist. He was from New York. If anyone has info abut him, please
let me know. Thank you.
Ed Harrison
Oldtymfoto@aol.com =========================================================================
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 14:34:24 -0600
From: Marie Vines mliberty@gmail.com
To: sinop2@eccoh.com
Subject: Re: Add to Roll Call listings
CTACS Marie (Fitzgerald) Vines;
Navy Field Station, Sinop March 1988 - March 1989.Email: mliberty@gmail.com
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Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 10:21:04 -0800 (PST)
From: Al Green asagreenhornet@yahoo.com
To: james.phillips@hill.af.mil
Cc: sinop2@eccoh.com
Subject: UNIT COINS
MERHABA Jim and Bill,
I've seen the ASA challenge coin advertised on the NASA website and also at the
annual ASA picnic at Blobs Park, MD. It never interested me. But I will place your
edited email into DOOL #182 which w/b issued the end of December.
Also, I will ask if anyone wants to have the Turkey sites cast - I will coooperate with
that person in selling them - possibly U, Jim Phillips, might want to do it.
I really am too busy with the DOOL to get involved.- - -gH
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Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 11:40:42 -0700
From: Phillips James R Contr 500 ACSS/GFLA James.Phillips@HILL.af.mil
To: Al Green <asagreenhornet@yahoo.com>
Cc: sinop2@eccoh.com
Subject: RE: UNIT COINS
Al,
I think it would be a good idea to put the thought out there on your web site and see what kind of response you get. Obviously, if I am the only one who is making such a collection, it wouldn't be worth it to have 150 Sinop and Karamursel coins cast just to fill out my collection. But if there is a large positive response, maybe we can figure something out.
I'm not sure yet if I would have to order 150 minimum for each site in Turkey, or if there could be a mix and match scenario. (I'm betting each base would require at least a mold fee, but maybe a variety of the coins after that could be purchased in the 150 minimum.)
If you and Bill will each post the info to your web site to just elicit responses, we can get a feel for how many would be interested. In the mean time, I will contact several of the companies that produce the coins and see what kind of deal can be worked out. I imagine the mold fee might be able to be reduced by making one side of all the coins the
same (something with the TUSLOG designation and identifying all three services' security agencies.) Then, only one side of the coin would need to be base specific. I know Defense Language Institute did something similar to that with the DLI emblem on one side and the reverse being specific to Army, Navy, or Air Force.
Let me know if either of you have any inspirations in the mean time!!
Jim
Jim Phillips, Battelle
F-16 Cost Analyst
500 ACSS/GFLA
Hill AFB, UT
Phone 801-777-9978 (DSN 777-9978)
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If anyone is interested in having these coins produced,
please contact Jim Phillips and express your interest.
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Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 16:12:02 -0700
From: Phillips James R Contr 500 ACSS/GFLA James.Phillips@HILL.af.mil
Subject: SinopHi, Bill,
Been awhile since I made a comm check. I see your website is still up and running.
After my one tour in the Navy, I went to work for the Air Force, first as a civilian for 28½ years, retiring in 1999 and now for the last five years as a contractor.
In the last six months, I began to notice the phenomenon sweeping the military known as challenge coins or commander's coins. If you're not familiar with them, they are bronze coins, about 1¾ to 2 inches in diameter. They depict a unit, ship, base, or military program. If you'll check the ASA home page, I know they have them for sale.
I decided to try to collect coins for everywhere my career has taken me and build a display for them. Relatively easy for bases still in existence, but those that have faded into the woodwork don't usually have coins, since the phenomenon only started getting big in the late 90s and early 2000s. They can be made in bulk for about $3.50 to $4.00 a coin in lots of around 150 or more and retail usually around $10 to $15.
I'm wondering if you or Elder Green of "Days of our Lives" would be interested in striking coins for sale for Turkish bases such as Sinop, Karamursel, Samsun, Trabzon, etc.
I'm sure there would be many folks in various data bases of former ASA, AFSS, and NSG personnel who would be interested in buying such souvenirs.
I know Elder Green has a reunion yearly. Could be a fund raiser to defray the cost of the reunion or could be offered on the web site along with the other merchandise he sells for reunions (hats, shirts). I don't have his e-mail address handy. If this sounds like a feasible idea, please pass this on to him.Hope all is well with you.
Jim Phillips
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From: roth vet <rothvet@hotmail.com>
To: <sinop2@eccoh.com>
Subject: RE: SINOP
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 03:42:54 +0000
d for diogenes or however it was spelled
Ron Sowinski
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Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:20:36 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
From: "Gary Weber" <triology@verizon.net>
Subject: DOOM
Hi Bill:
As I recall, "DOOM" stood for Defense Officers Open Mess.
Sincerely,
Gary Weber
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From: "Peter Carston Sr." <petesr@vol.com>
To: <sinop2@eccoh.com>
Subject: DOOM
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:34:13 -0500
Hi Bill;
Could the 'D' have stood for Diogenes?
Pete Carston---- '63-'64
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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 20:55:46 EST
From: Herbstoy@aol.com
Subject: SINOP
Hello,
I was in SINOP 1974 and 1975. It was an interesting time in my life and in
the military. I was there when the Turk military took over the base, of course
the many water shortages and food issues due to strikes. But over all I had a
good time. I am looking for information on the word "DOOM" in relationship
to Sinop. I just bought a silver goblet with the words, DOOM and SINOP,
Turkey engraved on it. I seem to remember something about DOOM, but you know
"Brain Fart", CRS (Can't remember Sh--) issues,\ or just old age, I can't seem to
remember what it means, can anyone out there help me??
Also,
I have started a Metro Area Army Security Agency Meetup Group for all of us
in the DC Metro Area. Lets get together and see when you were in and where
you were in the ASA. Do you remember the location? Do you remember the people?
Do you remember the work? What is it you remember about your time in the Army
Security Agency (ASA)? The initial meeting of the Metro Area Army Security
Agency Meetup Group is scheduled for Nov. 13th. Please "come on in" and enjoy
a drink and some fun! Please E-mail (herbstoy at aol.com) me for details on
the location or go to: (asa.meetup.com/30/)
Thanks! Herb
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Hi Herb,
There are numerous references to the DOOM Club at the Sinop website, too many to check out.
I believe that it was the officer's club at Sinop.
The O-O-M probably stood for Officer's Open Mess.
Perhaps someone else knows what the "D" stood for.
Bill Simons
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:59:33 -0400
From: "Streeter, Jimmy C" jimmy.c.streeter@lmco.com
To: sinop2@eccoh.com
Subject: sinop
Hi all,
Jim Streeter here. I was stationed at Det 4 in 1978 thru 79.
Worked out at Hippy while it was in "caretaker status". I remember the Wed. afternoons off and going to town at the beach every Wed. when the weather agreed. Which wasn't too often. Lots of good memories but some
not so good either. Seemed to take forever while I was there to get out. I swore I'd never go back and so far I've kept my word. Been out of the army since 1980 and glad of it. I was also at Field Station Augsburg from 72 thru 75. The rest of my military career albeit brief was at Ft. Devens, Mass.
Jimmy Streeter
Metrology
Lockheed Martin M&FC
5600 Sand Lake Rd.
Orlando, Fl 32819
PH 407 356-2377
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From: "Rick and B. J." barbara_deitz@bellsouth.net
Cc: Cleoleyla@aol.com (abdullah)
Subject: Rick Deitz/Sinop 79-80
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:08:53 +0000
Bill, I tried email from work with no luck. Hope you get this.
My name is Rick Deitz and I was on the hill from MAR 79- MAR 80.
I was asst. S4 for MAJ Sam Whitley and MAJ Paul St. Laurent.
Hung mostly with the aviators (MAJ Whitney Echols was airfield CDR) and
my good Turkish friend, Seit (worked with Abdullah and the engineers).
Have recently been in contact with Abdullah and got Seit's phone #.
If I can't get him by phone, is there someone still in Sinop who could
send me an email for Seit? He was about 20 yrs old in 1979.
Even his snail mail address would be most helpful.
Cok Keshidirum.
Rick Deitz
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Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:59:06 -0400
From: charles rodrigues crodrigues@twcny.rr.com
Subject: Don McFeaters......From DOOL 179 articleI'm trying to reach Donald McFeaters who had an article in DOOL179.
This is in reference to the name of David Cross.
I tried the phone and email address of Donald, but cannot reach him.If you read this Donald, please contact me at crodrigues@twcny.rr.com or 315-487-1195.
I would like to try to get more info to be able to reach Dave Cross.
Also, Frank Andrews would like to contact him. I can supply Frank's adress, also.Charlie Rodrigues Sinop 59-60!
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Subject: Alumni
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 00:46:37 +0200
From: "Clayton, Kimberly" Kimberly.Clayton@hlag.com
I was stationed there in Sinop Jan 1974 - Jan 1975.
98J10
Trick 4 (the best of them all)
Floor op, recorder op, and DSIF guru.
Transferred to SAD III at USASAFSK and became 98J30 as a SP4.
Retired after 23 1/2 yrs as a 96B4LGM (15 years in Germany).
Was down at the 'new' knife shop on Attaturk Blvd (road runs down to Yeni Hotel) during Ramadan.
A guy pulls up in an imported Ford Capri, comes in, and proceeds to start pouring J&B scotch.
He said if anyone comes in, hide the booze.
Scared the doo out of me.
Did not want to share a prison cell with that dumb guy that tried to take a few kilos of hash out with him.
On his last day in country, 1SG tells this kid if he's got anything, dump it, because the Krut police are coming with dogs.
"Sure, Top....sure".
He spent a year in prison awaiting his trial.
He was freed on the 50th anniversary of Turkeys independence from the Empire along with 249 other
'political' prisoners.
The next day the US dollar devaluated against the Krut Lira from 14 to 13.85 to the dollar.
Makes you go "Hmmmmmm".
Regards,
KC Clayton
Port/Terminal Operations
Hapag Lloyd (America), Inc.
401 E. Jackson Street
Tampa, Florida 33602
Tel: 813-276-5356
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Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:59:32 EDT
From: SSGPapaSmurf@aol.com
Subject: SSG Michael C. Sayers, Sinop from 1982-1983
Hello, I was at Sinop from 1982 - 1983. I was a 98J. Trick chief, and Senior Site Analst.
Some of you will remember me as Papa Smurf...I'm with NSA now and live at:
714 Parkway DR. Littlestown Pa. 17340, 717-359-7456.
My e-mail address is ssgpapasmurf@aol.com
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From: HITHEM@aol.com
To: sinop2@eccoh.com
Subject: Sinop 1970-71
Hi -
I was at Sinop from 1970-71 and worked at the Hippodrome commcenter. I guess they
thought I was a natural for the job as I had worked at BH II in Chitose Japan, 'Igloo'.
I liked it out there - you could get step outside at 0400 and get a good view of the
Black Sea at sunrise. (was a 72B, CommCen Specialist).
After Sinop, I got out of the army and went back to college. Finding it hard to get a job
with a history degree, I went back into the ASA (1975) and was sent to DLI
to study Arabic. I was subsequently sent to the 101st ABD, 265th ASA Co. I retired
in 1991 after Desert Storm and did some space-A travel and odd jobs until 2001,
when I applied around for a job. I got a job with the NSA as an Arab linguist and
have been there since 2002 it's great work and sure beats some of my post army
jobs such as working at a grocery store carrying out groceries.
ASA - All the way..
Dan HeglandUSASA/INSCOM 1967-1971; 1975-1991
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Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 11:04:54 -0400
From: KENNETH M LONG res18svv@verizon.net
To: sinop2@eccoh.com
Subject: Address change for Ken Long
I have a new e-mail, it is now ken.long4@verizon.netmailto:ken.long4@verizon.net
Thanks Ken Long
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Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:32:31 +0000
From: dittybop@att.net
To: sinop2@eccoh.com
Subject: email address changeHello;
I am William Peak. I am changing to Verizon broadband and need to change my email address.
It will be as follows: dittybop6063@yahoo.com
Thank you.
Bill Peak
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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 01:01:13 +0300
From: yusuf.ckr@gmail.com
To: sinop2@eccoh.com
Subject: from Sinop!..
*Hi!..*
*I'm Yusuf Cakir from Sinop.I am 22 years old now,and when TUSLOG Detachment
4 was closed,i was 7years old;so i can hardly remember it,but i heard much
about it.while i was searching for Sinop pics on the net,i found your pics
in **www.pics.com* <http://www.pics.com/>* .To say the truth i can not think
of finding that old pics on the net.I enjoyed those pics very
much.Mygrandfather,named as me,was a driver in TUSLOG Detachment 4,and
retired from
TUSLOG Detachment 4.Then, my father had worked in TUSLOG Detachment 4 till
it was closed.I like searhing history of last decades,and i admire the
change on cities and people.*
*I'm a university student stduying in ELT(English Language Teaching),and i
need your help to improve my English.*
*I can't know what to write now.But thank you very much for that pics of
sinop which i can't find anywhere else.*
*If you want to write me,i will be very pleased.*
**
*:))*
**
*you can also use my MSN address:**yusuf.ckr@hotmail.com*yusuf.ckr@hotmail.com
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Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 16:14:53 -0700
From: "Lyons. Robert" LyonsR@saccounty.net
Subject: tour of duty det66-1
Just found this site and wanted to log on.
Served in det66/1 1960-61.at the xmitter site down the hill.
Still in touch with at least one vet from the Hill and would like to hear from others especially in the Calif
area.
rlyons@surewest.net
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Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2007 08:23:17 -0500
Subject: Sinop.. Tuslog Det 66-1 Web site update!!
From: Ken Kushi kkushi@msn.com
I just wanted to update my Sinop Det 66-1 web site address.
http://users.adelphia.net/~kkushi/tuslog_det_66.htmI still have my original site up but now have a new one which I hope to add more info to. I so far I have only contacted 1 person that was there with me.
Ken Kushi
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 12:29:01 -0500
From: Dennis Copeland dencopeland@gmail.com
Subject: sinop vet looking to connect
I've visited the website. it's great. how do I get a spot to upload some
old photos & memories?
I was there 8/65-8/66; worked in S2 as 71B...i in-processed 'everybody' on
the hill at that time, indoctrination, badges and all that stuff.
Col Lewis, then Julian Wells were COs. Maj Perkins XO, Cpt Weiderman S1,
Capt Brow S2. SSGT Paul Hancock worked S2 also.
Anyway, i do have some pix and am in touch with 2 others from that period, looking to connect with others.
--
Dennis Copeland
703-282-3412 (mobile)
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Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 20:56:14 -0500
From: roy nomad@twcny.rr.com
Subject: Sinop 60-61
Hi,
I was stationed on the "hill" from Sept 60 until around June of 61. I worked in ops as a 283 Electronic Warfare Equipment Repair. Great and not so great memories of the place. Great memories of the guys.
Mel Wilcox, Jim Bailey and I were at Monmouth together going through 283 school, They graduated one class ahead of mine and we all were sent to the "hill" Except I arrived a month before them. Great reunion and lots of stories to tell.
I plan on sending some photos of life on the hill soon.
Take care
Roy Van Order
Liverpool NY
Nomad@twcny.rr.com
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Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:04:33 -0500
Subject: Sinop Signal Corp
From: Don Moyer dmoyer1@sbcglobal.net
Hi,
I was stationed in Sinop from May of 1963 through April of 1964. We were
Detachment 66-1 of the Signal Corp and they changed our detachment number to 169 during that time period.
I am attaching a picture of our group that managed the Radio Transmitter
site at the airport. Would also like to see if anyone has any information
of any of them.
They are left to right (Sgt Fowler, SP5 Redding, Myself, Sgt Bill Humble,
Sp5 Ron Zimmerman.
Thanks again for the web site.
Don Moyer
Email is dmoyer1@sbcglobal.net
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From: "Tom O'Brien" trob@atmc.net
Subject: Sinop Turkey
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 10:18:44 -0500
Good Morning: Greetings from NC. We recently learned of this site and furnished information to update the "roster".
We have several items that might be of interest to a collector of Sinop Memories. We purchased Canon camera's while there and spent almost every decent weekend taking photo's. Unfortunately these are slides but in Kodak Carousel containers. We have no real use for them, our memories are vivid enough!! Still have old patches, etc and some other "junk".. My gold bracelets are not included!!
If you are interested, will start "rounding it up".
Also I have a "what is it?", will send in a separate message.
Have a great day MSG A. O'BRIEN (ret)
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From: "Tom O'Brien" trob@atmc.net
Subject: A Turkish puzzle
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 10:26:56 -0500
Hello again: Do you have the slightest idea what this is?? It is very roughly made with sharp edges so it could not be worn on the person - Maybe a Turkish soldier might - It had been worn on something as the cord is frayed from wear. Could it be a goat bell??
Any idea will be appreciated. A. O'B
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