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Brian, Thanks for the photo tip.
I tried to acknowledge receipt of your message but your ISP refused to accept my Email. Bill
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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:48:25 -0500
From: Brian Alpert balpert1@nyc.rr.com
To: sinop3@eccoh.com
Subject: old washed up photos
Bill
I just read Frank Dreano's post about his over exposed or faded pictures of Sinop.
He really should try having them scanned rather then processed the old fashioned way.
As a professional photographer who started out first shooting and processing black and white many years ago
it never ceases to amaze me how digitalization saves old negatives that back in the old days we would have
s..t canned as unprintable.
Brian Alpert
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Subject: The Best Christmas I ever Had
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:32:22 -0600
From: "D'Angelo, Robert Sal \(Bob\)" rsdangelo@alcatel-lucent.com
To: <sinop3@eccoh.com>
Hi All
I was a Spec 5 in Det 169 in 1967- 1968. Worked in Tech Control.
Looking back after 40 + Years. I think one of the best Christmas I ever spent was with guys in Det 169 and Det 4.
They were good times even if we were far away from home. But we weren't alone.
I always wanted know what happened to guy who order wire name was Linus after the character in Snoopy.
If anybody knows send my some email.
Merry Christmas !!!!!
Bob D'Angelo
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Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 10:23:58 -0800 (PST)
From: JOHN MICHAEL HOUSE housefamily4@verizon.net
Subject: Merry Christmas
To: sinop2@eccoh.com
All of us who spent a Christmas on the hill experienced a lonely holiday thousands of miles from our families.
Yet if you are like me, it was also one of my most memorable.
In this time of economic and political uncertainty, I and my family wish everyone a Merry Christmas.
God Bless,
Mike House
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Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:08:36 -0500
From: Frank Dreano fdreano@earthlink.net
To: sinop2@eccoh.com
Well - my old photos are really washed out - I have the negatives and will see if anybody still develops pictures from them....if I have success I'll pass them along.
I attach a picture of me (was I ever that young?) and my 'get out of Sinop free card'.....this was my ticket off the site on emergency leave when my Dad was seriously injured in a car wreck.
Took me two days and a night of travel across Turkey at age 20 by myself to get to the airport to fly home (I just missed the mail plane flying outbound from Sinop)...I hitched rides on tractors, horse carts, you-name-it and didn't speak a word of Turkish...
Looks like the officer that signed it was named Walker but can't say I remember him.
Frank Dreano
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Click HERE to see the picture . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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Hi Frank,
Thanks for the email.
I sure would like to see and post those photos on the Sinop website.
I'll send a copy of this message along to Ron Sowinski so he can add your information to his Sinop personnel pages.
Best regards,
Bill Simons
Manager, US Military/Sinop website
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Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:08:36 -0500
From: Frank Dreano <fdreano@earthlink.net>
Subject: Sinop vet from '72-'73
I worked ELINT at Sinop for about 5 months before my father was seriously hurt in a car wreck and I was PCS'ed to Norfolk, Va. and finally got out on a hardship discharge.
I think I have some old photos of me and some buddies wandering around the local ruins and downtown as well....I'll try to find them and send them to you.
Frank Dreano
Spec-4 98J
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Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:36:02 -0500
From: Steve Smith stevesmith@byteone.com
Cc: "Windham, Mike COL" mike.windham@us.army.mil
Subject: Esek 011 - FOIA Request
Bill,
I received a heavily didacted copy of the crash report back in September. I thought I sent you and Mike Windham a copy back them, but now that I tried to send it to somebody else I recall that it's a huge (135Meg) file and it locks up my email client when I try to attach. Does your web site have an FTP option or any other way to share large files?
Basically, the investigators blame the pilots, the command, and the weather and say that one engine was out before the plane hit the ground. They found fault with the pilots (and the command for allowing it) for using the weather radar as a navigation device. They would change the range on the weather radar when they expected they were so many miles out and look for the distinctive outline of the Sinop peninsula. There also seems to be a question whether they were flying VFR in IFR conditions and possible deviation from the regular flight path. They also say that one of the pilots did not get enough rest after returning from Christmas leave in CONUS.
Thanks,
Steve Smith
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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:11:04 -0500
From: ElmerBoggs eboggs@comcast.net
To: sinop2@eccoh.com
Subject: SinopI would like to get included in the list for the Sinop Turkey veterans.
I served there from June 63-December 65. I was a trick chief in operations and used to yell a lot at Frisco, Moorhead, and P-Van and I left there as a Spec 5.
Elmer Boggs
Jacksonville Florida
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Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 10:40:13 EST
From: "Gary Goldacker" GoldackerG@aol.com
To: sinop2@eccoh.com
Subject: TUSLOG, Det 4
I was glad to find the page for Sinop and see names that are still familiar to me.
It was amazing to see the pictures of modern Sinop; what a change!I am Gary Goldacker and I served at Sinop from Feb '62 to Dec '62 as the mail clerk. I was doing this when we moved the mailroom from the old Quonset hut into the new permanent building.
A couple of other people I remember serving with are Sam Shepherd, payroll clerk and Ernie Boardman, both of whom were from Texas.
Like a number of others, I went from Sinop to Ft. Huachuca (52d USASASOC)
I have just retired after 40 years ministry as an Episcopal priest.
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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:46:35 -0600
From: leesutton@mail.utexas.edu
To: billsimons@yahoo.com
Subject: Sinop
Hello Bill,
I found Sowinski's personnel list on Google and finally sent him my info for inclusion.
I was on the hill from Dec '61 to Dec '62 and have scanned 50 photos- color slides of Sinop and B/W snapshots of guys around barracks etc. from that time into the computer. I asked Ron if there was a site where I could upload and share them - he suggested I might talk to you about it.From your info on the list, I missed you by a year. I recently got the people at Apple to show me
how to post on a page in ".Mac" and have been organizing my photos into an album for posting there. I've also written to a couple of GI's from the list who were my contemporaries in Sinop. When I left Turkey, I was sure I never wanted to hear about Sinop ever again. From the comfortable distance of 45 years, it seems kind of quaint.
Yours, Lee Sutton
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Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:14:23 -0500
From: Leon and Judy Brown browngang@mindspring.com
To: sinop2@eccoh.com
Subject: Sinop July '70 - August '71
Hi,
My name is Leondus (Lee) Brown and I was stationed on "The Hill" 1970-71 as a dental specialist and medic in the dispensary. the Dentist I worked for was Jesus Lopez, and the Doctor was Steve Morgan. I've noticed very few folks posting from this period in the life of Det 4.
During this period, we lost four of our comrades to death: two to heart attacks and two to a sail boat accident. Does anybody remember the names of the guys killed in the sailboat accident? One was a young Lieutenant and the other a civilian (American) employee. Sad that I should forget their names, as I was only 19 years old and had done dental work on both of them shortly before their death. The accident was quite traumatic for all of us who were stationed there.
Also during this period, there was an uprising of the Turkish Liberation Front and marshal law was declared. It was kind of a frightening time to be in Turkey.
Anybody remember the hijacked Russian plane that landed at our flightline?
But my time there was not all bad. I got to shoot my first "Russian" wild boar on a hunt through the Sinop Sportsman's Club and had several good fishing trips and dove hunts with them. Anybody on here frequent the club? Anybody remember the wild piglet we captured and raised to adulthood? Her name was "Jackie" and was named after the head of the Sportsman's club Jack ___? (he was a little on the rotund side).
As the years have passed, so have many of the memories from my time on The Hill. I am so glad that I found this site to help restore those memories.
Ismarladik (or gule gule)
Lee Brown
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From: hoggramps1@bellsouth.net
To: sinop2@eccoh.com
Subject: Sinop Soldier
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:29:49 +0000Bill --- We were on the Hill together in 59 & 60. I am attaching a Pic of an individual that was stationed there during our tenure. Three other Sinopians that were on the Hill during that time cannot ID him. Do you know who he is or someone that might. Hope all is well with you and thanks.
Frank
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Sorry Frank, the face looks a little familiar but can't put a name to him/.
Does anyone else know who this is??
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Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:00:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Al Green <asagreenhornet@yahoo.com>
Subject: PIX OF OUR OLDEST SON IN IRAQ
To: Elder Green <asagreenhornet@yahoo.com>
Hi Friends,
We just received this foto of our oldest son who is stationed at Belot AFB in Iraq.
He is in charge of the Physical Therapy clinic at Belot.
He is pointing to Tucson where his wife and 2 sons are residing.while he is away.Elder & Patty Green
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Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:31:31 -0400
From: Steve Smith stevesmith@byteone.com
Subject: WBOK radio
To alleviate some of the boredom of the hill I volunteered to be a disc jockey for the base radio station - KBOK. Bok is sh-t in Turkish. We had a small broadcasting studio close to the main quadrangle and closed circuit transmission lines (no radio antennae) strung throughoit the base. Your radio had to be within so many feet of one of the lines to pick up KBOK.
When one of the volunteers wasn't broadcasting we piped through the Armed Forces Radio Network. We had a real loose schedule - if somebody felt like doing a show, we each had a key to the studio and would just drop in and broadcast.
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To read the rest of Steve's message, please click HERE and go to his personal page.
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Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:58:10 -0400
From: Steve Smith stevesmith@byteone.com
To: sinop2@eccoh.com
Subject: ASA - The Crash of Esek 011
I was recently reminiscing about my Army days and my tour at Tuslog Det. 4 in Sinop, Turkey and decided to try Googling it. I was very surprised and delighted to find your site and I've been reading the archives all weekend. Of particular interest was the section on the crash of Ashak (Turkish spelling Esek) 011.
I was stationed in Sinop 76-77 as a lab technician (92B) at the dispensary. I was actually transported to Sinop aboard one of Esek Airlines' two twin-propeller planes when the crew found me at an Ankara hotel awaiting a next-day THY flight to Samsun. I gladly accepted the ride after hearing horror stories about THY and their part-time Turkish Air Force pilots, and my flight from Rome to Ankara aboard a Pan Am flight had been especially turbulent with a passenger very close to my seat making liberal use of the air-sickness bags. We flew from Ankara to Istanbul to pick up mail and then on to Sinop. My first sight of the hill was from above as the pilot buzzed it to let those below know that mail was aboard.
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For the rest of Steve's interesting message go to his personal page - Click HERE
..... snip .....
Please keep up the great work with your site and thanks for the work that you do to maintain it.
Best Regards,
Steve Smith
Massillon, Ohio
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Hi Frank,My Email reply (shown below) was bounced back from your ISP as undeliverable.
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 07:28:37 -0500
From: sinop2@eccoh.com
To: Frank R Andrews <hoggramps1@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re:Sinop/Frank R. Andrews 59-60
Hi Frank,
I'll send a copy of your message to Ron Sowinski so he can correct his Sinop personnel files.
Your name sounds familiar, have we been in contact before?
I was there from Dec. 59-Dec. 60 so maybe I recall your name from that time some 48-49
years ago but then knowing my current mental state, I doubt it.
If you would like to write down some of your memories of that fateful year and any current
biographical information that you would like to share, I would be most happy to set up a personal
page for you at the web site.
Some of your pictures of Sinop and the Hill would also be appreciated.
Best regards,
Bill Simons
Manager, US Military/Sinop web site
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Quoting Frank R Andrews <hoggramps1@bellsouth.net>:
> On the Roll Call page it lists me as also being on the hill in 73-74..
> I was only there once and that was 59-60; And, those memories are still
> there as if it was yesterday. It was not only an adventure but also an
> education....
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Subject: Sinop Turkey 66-67 Bill's Homepage
Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008 6:35 PM
From: "Guy Zimmerman" guyzimm@fuse.net
Hi,
I came across your page while I was looking at the ASA page.I was on the hill at Sinop 1966-1967.
Guy D. Zimmerman SP5 Electronic Equip repair. RA15650298
I would like to be on the page if it's possible.
Guy D Zimmerman
161 Sulphur Springs Drive
Batavia, Ohio 45103
guyzimm@fuse.net
Thanks
Guy
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Bill replied:
Hi Guy,
I would be happy to set up a personal page for you at the Sinop site.
Send along some information/stories of your year at Sinop and any
pictures that you would like to accompany them and I would be happy
to set you up.
Swearingen's page was one of the recent ones that we added.
You might use that as a sort of guide.
I look forward to working with you on it.
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From: "Charles Masters" elkhound52@comcast.net
Subject: Det 4, SINOP
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 16:59:45 -0600
Name: Charles "Cliff" Masters (SSG)
Assigned to Det 4, SINOP: Sep 1981 - Sep 1982
Hello,
I see that a majority of the folks posted on this website date back a little further in time than I do. It is kind of like a generational break differentiated by those serving under ASA and those under INSCOM.
After a break in service, I reenlisted in May 79. Walked off the street and found myself at Ft. Devens attending the 98J course. Enjoyed Ft. Devens and surrounding area. I brought my wife Kathi and daughter Dacia with me, putting them up in a small apartment in Leominster. About went broke on E-2 pay! Got rank back pretty quick being prior service.
First assignment after Devens was Ft. Carson, CO. 104th MI Bn, 4th ID. Only there 18 months. Went back to Devens during that time for advanced 98J courses.
Orders for Det 4 SINOP came around May 81. TDY to Devens and leave in route to Det 4. Left wife pregnant with our second child, (daughter Dana).
Left for Istanbul 13 Sep 81, leaving JFK Intl. Exhausting trip. Made a prearranged phone call at the Istanbul airport. An American in civvies came and picked us up in an Army van. Crashed out at the Cinar Hotel in Istanbul. Awakened only for the last leg of the trip to Sinop via single engine prop Army plane.
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((For the rest of Charles Master's bio go back to the Sinop main page and click on his name.))
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From: "Earle Burger" <earleburger@hughes.net>
To: <sinop2@eccoh.com>
Subject: Please note the below email
Hi Earle,
Glad to hear from you. I was up in Sinop Det 4 in 1967 and 1968 but
Did have contact with a couple of folks down at Det 27. Was so long ago
That I don't remember their names. Wish I could get in touch with more
Folks from Det 4 from my period. Check with Bill Simons. He knows a lot
About who was where when. (the 4 W's). Site: Simon's Mail Bag......
Take Care,
Bill
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I am trying to find people who may have been at Det 27 during the years 1963 - 1965. Can you help me?
Earle
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Bill Simons: Earle, I've forwarded your request to Elder Green who posts the Days of Our Lives newsletter
which contains information about Det. 27 personnel as well as those from Sinop.
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Rich, I tried to send you this Email reply but Comcast considered it SPAM and wouldn't accept it.
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:42:37 -0500
From: sinop2@eccoh.com
To: Rich Swearingen <rrswear@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: suggestioin for site/Thanks
Hi Rich,
Sorry for the delay in answering your message but everything seems to take
longer as one grows older (at least in my case).
I will take your suggestion under consideration and check with a few regular
readers to see what they think.
Best regards,
Bill
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Quoting Rich Swearingen <rrswear@comcast.net>:
I hope you don't mind a suggestion as I reliaze that the original effort and up-keep was - is a task in itself.
However, I would suggest the names be listed by last name first which would make looking up folks. easier.
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The Webmaster asks:
What do you as one of our regular visitors think?Should we change the personal page listings on the Home pagre from "First name Second name" to
"Second name, First name"?
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From: "Charles Masters" <elkhound52@comcast.net>
To: <sinop2@eccoh.com>
Subject: Det 4, SINOP
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 16:59:45 -0600
Name: Charles "Cliff" Masters (SSG)
Assigned to Det 4, SINOP: Sep 1981 - Sep 1982
Hello,
I see that a majority of the folks posted on this website date back a little further in time than I do. It is kind of like a generational break differentiated by those serving under ASA and those under INSCOM.
After a break in service, I reenlisted in May 79. Walked off the street and found myself at Ft. Devens attending the 98J course. Enjoyed Ft. Devens and surrounding area. I brought my wife Kathi and daughter Dacia with me, putting them up in a small apartment in Leominster. About went broke on E-2 pay! Got rank back pretty quick being prior service.
First assignment after Devens was Ft. Carson, CO. 104th MI Bn, 4th ID. Only there 18 months. Went back to Devens during that time for advanced 98J courses.
Orders for Det 4 SINOP came around May 81. TDY to Devens and leave in route to Det 4. Left wife pregnant with our second child, (daughter Dana).
Left for Istanbul 13 Sep 81, leaving JFK Intl. Exhausting trip. Made a prearranged phone call at the Istanbul airport. An American in civvies came and picked us up in an Army van. Crashed out at the Cinar Hotel in Istanbul. Awakened only for the last leg of the trip to Sinop via single engine prop Army plane.
Airlines lost my duffel bag. Worked at Sinop for about 3 months in civilian clothes before duffle bag finally showed up. Got a little teasing from fellow troops. "When you going to get some uniforms?"
Landed on a small airfield with Sinop between us and the hill. Truck ride the rest of the way. Some sights suggested I had stepped back in time. Very interesting. I was pretty much clueless!
Didn't volunteer for Sinop but made the best of it while there. Enjoyed the mission and toured Turkey when time and money allowed. Lots of Biblical history there. Took advantage of chapel sponsored tours as well as those by the MWR. Van trips to Samsun. A small cruise ship to Trabazon. Shopping and restaurant trips to down town Sinop. Shop keepers very friendly. Food not bad. Got sicker than a dog after one night out. We're talking about projectile vomiting and explosive diarrhea! Had to crawl to the dispensary for an injection.
Worked with a US Navy Det on the operations floor. They worked different signals from what we were after. Also had a Turkish NCO on our crew. He was very smart and spoke English well. He was a stamp collector. I gave him what I could collect from home and relatives. Wish I had made arrangements to stay in touch.
No real problems with water shortages during my tour. The mess hall was good. On Thanksgiving the Turkish soldiers/guards ate most of the turkey up before we could get there after our shift. I noticed they loved our sliced bread. All pitched in and made an effort to make Christmas special. Plenty of food and drink.
Felt isolated from the world. Bought a SW Radio so to pick up the BBC and other news outlets. A life saver. Read a lot of books when not traveling. The tiny post library was not bad.
Living on the hill was like living in a fish bowl. Everybody know what everybody else was doing. No hanky panky escaped unnoticed.
Terrible with names after all of these years. Remember a fellow troop by the name of Charles Pendergraph or similar last name. Commander was COL, F.X. Toomey.
The C-130 plane ride out of Sinop was an experience! Made the mistake of eating a large mess hall breakfast. SOS on a shingle and other stuff. Couldn't find a barf bag on the plane so just choked it down so not to make anyone else sick.
Last assignment was the 519th MI Bn, Ft Bragg. Not much going on in the unit when there. It was newly formed. Just busy work. Got out of the army JUN 83 when my enlistment was up. Tired of living out of a suitcase! Moved back to Colorado Springs. In 84, hooked up with the Air Force as a DoD civilian. Have been with the Air Force Engineering and Technical Services (AFETS), (series 1670, Equipment Specialist) since 89. Currently assigned to HQ AFSPC, Peterson AFB, CO. Will retire from civil service at the end of Aug this year. Not sure what line of work I want to do next. The military has been good to me and family since the day I was drafted in 1972. No regrets!
Hope to find others that served with me at Sinop. Some names on the roster seem very familiar but not positive yet.
Best wishes to all,
Charles "Cliff" Masters
Colorado Springs, CO
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From: Michael Dick Michael.Dick@park.edu
To: sinop2@eccoh.com
Subject: Sinop 1971 - 1972
Bill,
I was with the AF from Feb 1871 - Feb 1972. I thought it was the remotest part of Turkey until I got stationed at Sahin Tepesi in 1984.
Diogenes Army Post was the official name of the site and I remember what Sinop stood for:
Sex Is Not Our Policy
I lived in Lincoln Hall and remember all the senior NCOs lived in the limberdick.
I was there when the put the finishing touches on the FLR-12 that was relocated from Samsun.
When I left, Samsun was snowed in and I took a cab with four Army guys to Ankara.
I remember this as the 'ride into hell!'
Mike Dick
Knob Noster, MO
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Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:14:49 -0400
From: Brian Alpert balpert1@nyc.rr.com
To: sinop2@eccoh.com
Subject: convoy photo
Bill
When I left Sinop in May 1965 I went by convoy. I was supposed fly to Ankara but when I arrived with my gear to get my ride to the airport I was told the plane was not flying that day and they did not know if it would be fixed by the next day or so.The convoy was parked in the same area getting ready to leave. I was friendly with the MP who was on convoy duty heard the conversation and invited me to go with him via convoy. I got to ride up front instead of in the back of a deuce and a half.
I just found this photo which I took along the way. I guess we must have stopped for lunch.
If you want you can add it to my page.
Brian Alpert
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Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:14:41 -0600
From: Adam Baroumand <adammapple@hotmail.com>
Subject: DOOM SINOP Silver-plated Tankard
Hi, I wanted to everyone that i just ran across this site as i posted a DOOM SINOP Tankard on eBay.
I figured someone on this site might be interested to have it or really knows what this item is.
Starting at one cent.
The auction can be found here: (Bidding expires Mar-23-08 20:25:27 PDT)
http://cgi.ebay.com/Mappin-Silver-Plate-Goblet-engraved-DOOM-SINOP_W0QQitemZ190207250334QQcmdZViewItem?
hash=item190207250334
Let me know if you have any questions,
Adam
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Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 23:28:03 -0700
From: Jim PHILLIPS prospectorjim@msn.com
Subject: Sinop Coins
Merhaba!
After three months, I've only heard from one individual, so I'm guessing a Sinop or Karamursel coin
is not going to make an appearance any time soon.
Thanks for supporting my idea!
Jim Phillips
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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:17:47 -0500
From: Bill Simons sinop2@eccoh.com
To: Paul White swhite10@insightbb.com
Subject: Re: Jim LogsdonHi Paul,
Sorry for the delay but I was working on my Income Taxes and when I do that nothing else gets done!The name Jim Logsdon does not ring any bells with me.
Most of my Hill memories are filtered through an alcoholic fog and so my recollections of that year are very dim.I checked the Roll Call lists and did not find his name there either.
I'll post your message on the Mailbag Page and perhaps someone who also knew him will get in touch.
Best regards,
Bill Simons
Manager, US Military/Sinop web site.
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Quoting Paul White swhite10@insightbb.com:
Did you by any chance know Jim Logsdon that served on the hill while you were there?
My name is Paul White from Det 27 Ankara and I went to high school with Jim.
If you knew Jim I could possible get you in contact with him.
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Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:43:04 -0600 (CST)
From: gpeale@verizon.net
Subject: Sinop Turkey
Hello,
Discovered this site. Brings back a lot of memories. I was assigned to Det. 4 from Mar. 1977 to April 1978.
I was a 33G, SP-5. I very much enjoyed the pictures and stories. Thank you
Best regards,
Gary Peale
7142 Keynote
Long Beach, CA 90808
(562) 421-1667
(562) 355-5320
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From: "Bob Black" bobtxtyler342@earthlink.net
Subject: Tuslog Det 4
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 14:35:19 -0800
Dear Bill,
For some unexplained reason, I Googled "karahani" the other day, after watching a program about a Turkish family on PBS' "Nova". Your Eccoh.com came up, and I read it with a great deal of interest.
I Googled again today and found your REAL homepage and decided to write.
I was USNNSG, CT3, stationed in Sinop 1966-67, after having gone through my Yeni training in Karamursel. We had roughly 25-30 Navy personnel on the base at any given time. My year in Turkey (especially the Hill) was one of the most professionally rewarding experiences in my life. I wish I had been older than 20 then, so that I could have taken more time to enjoy the culture.
I won't make this long. Just wanted to say "Thank You" for bringing back memories that have long been buried. I will go through your home page in the next few days and relive some of the past.
Thanks again.
Bob Black, CT3
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From: "Charlie R" <crodrigues@twcny.rr.com>
To: <sinop2@eccoh.com>
Subject:
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:21:47 -0500
Bill.....In DOOL 176, Don McFeaters wrote about meeting Dave Cross in the Galleria Mall in Johnstown, Pa.
I've tried many times to reach Don M at the phone number listed and at his email address, and
get nothing at either.
If any can help, or maybe live near the Mall, I would greatly appreciate it if you could have
Dave Cross contact me. Don said that Dave had a jewelry suite in the Mall.My email address is crodrigues@twcny.rr.com or phone @ 315 487 1195.
Thank's all!!!
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Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:56:50 -0700
From: linda spencer lapspencer@msn.com
Subject: change of email address
Bill,
When you find the time, please change the email address on my picture page to lapspencer@msn.com .
I'm happy to report that the reason for this change is my recent retirement from 33 years of teaching, so my old school address will no longer work.
Also if you have time, could you replace the text on my page that says LT Jack Fortini was my replacement it should read I was Lt Jack Fortini's replacement. He clarified that fact in an email; over the years I have received a number of emails from people who were with me on The Hill, and I'm very grateful to you for making this all possible by maintaining the web site.
Allahismarladik.
Frank Spencer
Det 4 '72-'73
Tucson, Arizona
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Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:08:46 EST
From: OldTymFoto@aol.com
Subject: looking for Joel Cohen
I served "on the Hill" in 1969-1970. Was good friends with Joel Cohen who
was a linguist. He was from New York. If anyone has info abut him, please
let me know. Thank you.
Ed Harrison
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Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 14:34:24 -0600
From: Marie Vines mliberty@gmail.com
To: sinop2@eccoh.com
Subject: Re: Add to Roll Call listings
CTACS Marie (Fitzgerald) Vines;
Navy Field Station, Sinop March 1988 - March 1989.Email: mliberty@gmail.com
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Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 10:21:04 -0800 (PST)
From: Al Green asagreenhornet@yahoo.com
To: james.phillips@hill.af.mil
Cc: sinop2@eccoh.com
Subject: UNIT COINS
MERHABA Jim and Bill,
I've seen the ASA challenge coin advertised on the NASA website and also at the
annual ASA picnic at Blobs Park, MD. It never interested me. But I will place your
edited email into DOOL #182 which w/b issued the end of December.
Also, I will ask if anyone wants to have the Turkey sites cast - I will coooperate with
that person in selling them - possibly U, Jim Phillips, might want to do it.
I really am too busy with the DOOL to get involved.- - -gH
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Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 11:40:42 -0700
From: Phillips James R Contr 500 ACSS/GFLA James.Phillips@HILL.af.mil
To: Al Green <asagreenhornet@yahoo.com>
Cc: sinop2@eccoh.com
Subject: RE: UNIT COINS
Al,
I think it would be a good idea to put the thought out there on your web site and see what kind of response you get. Obviously, if I am the only one who is making such a collection, it wouldn't be worth it to have 150 Sinop and Karamursel coins cast just to fill out my collection. But if there is a large positive response, maybe we can figure something out.
I'm not sure yet if I would have to order 150 minimum for each site in Turkey, or if there could be a mix and match scenario. (I'm betting each base would require at least a mold fee, but maybe a variety of the coins after that could be purchased in the 150 minimum.)
If you and Bill will each post the info to your web site to just elicit responses, we can get a feel for how many would be interested. In the mean time, I will contact several of the companies that produce the coins and see what kind of deal can be worked out. I imagine the mold fee might be able to be reduced by making one side of all the coins the
same (something with the TUSLOG designation and identifying all three services' security agencies.) Then, only one side of the coin would need to be base specific. I know Defense Language Institute did something similar to that with the DLI emblem on one side and the reverse being specific to Army, Navy, or Air Force.
Let me know if either of you have any inspirations in the mean time!!
Jim
Jim Phillips, Battelle
F-16 Cost Analyst
500 ACSS/GFLA
Hill AFB, UT
Phone 801-777-9978 (DSN 777-9978)
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If anyone is interested in having these coins produced,
please contact Jim Phillips and express your interest.
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Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 16:12:02 -0700
From: Phillips James R Contr 500 ACSS/GFLA James.Phillips@HILL.af.mil
Subject: SinopHi, Bill,
Been awhile since I made a comm check. I see your website is still up and running.
After my one tour in the Navy, I went to work for the Air Force, first as a civilian for 28½ years, retiring in 1999 and now for the last five years as a contractor.
In the last six months, I began to notice the phenomenon sweeping the military known as challenge coins or commander's coins. If you're not familiar with them, they are bronze coins, about 1¾ to 2 inches in diameter. They depict a unit, ship, base, or military program. If you'll check the ASA home page, I know they have them for sale.
I decided to try to collect coins for everywhere my career has taken me and build a display for them. Relatively easy for bases still in existence, but those that have faded into the woodwork don't usually have coins, since the phenomenon only started getting big in the late 90s and early 2000s. They can be made in bulk for about $3.50 to $4.00 a coin in lots of around 150 or more and retail usually around $10 to $15.
I'm wondering if you or Elder Green of "Days of our Lives" would be interested in striking coins for sale for Turkish bases such as Sinop, Karamursel, Samsun, Trabzon, etc.
I'm sure there would be many folks in various data bases of former ASA, AFSS, and NSG personnel who would be interested in buying such souvenirs.
I know Elder Green has a reunion yearly. Could be a fund raiser to defray the cost of the reunion or could be offered on the web site along with the other merchandise he sells for reunions (hats, shirts). I don't have his e-mail address handy. If this sounds like a feasible idea, please pass this on to him.Hope all is well with you.
Jim Phillips
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From: roth vet <rothvet@hotmail.com>
To: <sinop2@eccoh.com>
Subject: RE: SINOP
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 03:42:54 +0000
d for diogenes or however it was spelled
Ron Sowinski
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Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:20:36 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
From: "Gary Weber" <triology@verizon.net>
Subject: DOOM
Hi Bill:
As I recall, "DOOM" stood for Defense Officers Open Mess.
Sincerely,
Gary Weber
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From: "Peter Carston Sr." <petesr@vol.com>
To: <sinop2@eccoh.com>
Subject: DOOM
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:34:13 -0500
Hi Bill;
Could the 'D' have stood for Diogenes?
Pete Carston---- '63-'64
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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 20:55:46 EST
From: Herbstoy@aol.com
Subject: SINOP
Hello,
I was in SINOP 1974 and 1975. It was an interesting time in my life and in
the military. I was there when the Turk military took over the base, of course
the many water shortages and food issues due to strikes. But over all I had a
good time. I am looking for information on the word "DOOM" in relationship
to Sinop. I just bought a silver goblet with the words, DOOM and SINOP,
Turkey engraved on it. I seem to remember something about DOOM, but you know
"Brain Fart", CRS (Can't remember Sh--) issues,\ or just old age, I can't seem to
remember what it means, can anyone out there help me??
Also,
I have started a Metro Area Army Security Agency Meetup Group for all of us
in the DC Metro Area. Lets get together and see when you were in and where
you were in the ASA. Do you remember the location? Do you remember the people?
Do you remember the work? What is it you remember about your time in the Army
Security Agency (ASA)? The initial meeting of the Metro Area Army Security
Agency Meetup Group is scheduled for Nov. 13th. Please "come on in" and enjoy
a drink and some fun! Please E-mail (herbstoy at aol.com) me for details on
the location or go to: (asa.meetup.com/30/)
Thanks! Herb
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Hi Herb,
There are numerous references to the DOOM Club at the Sinop website, too many to check out.
I believe that it was the officer's club at Sinop.
The O-O-M probably stood for Officer's Open Mess.
Perhaps someone else knows what the "D" stood for.
Bill Simons
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:59:33 -0400
From: "Streeter, Jimmy C" jimmy.c.streeter@lmco.com
To: sinop2@eccoh.com
Subject: sinop
Hi all,
Jim Streeter here. I was stationed at Det 4 in 1978 thru 79.
Worked out at Hippy while it was in "caretaker status". I remember the Wed. afternoons off and going to town at the beach every Wed. when the weather agreed. Which wasn't too often. Lots of good memories but some
not so good either. Seemed to take forever while I was there to get out. I swore I'd never go back and so far I've kept my word. Been out of the army since 1980 and glad of it. I was also at Field Station Augsburg from 72 thru 75. The rest of my military career albeit brief was at Ft. Devens, Mass.
Jimmy Streeter
Metrology
Lockheed Martin M&FC
5600 Sand Lake Rd.
Orlando, Fl 32819
PH 407 356-2377
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From: "Rick and B. J." barbara_deitz@bellsouth.net
Cc: Cleoleyla@aol.com (abdullah)
Subject: Rick Deitz/Sinop 79-80
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:08:53 +0000
Bill, I tried email from work with no luck. Hope you get this.
My name is Rick Deitz and I was on the hill from MAR 79- MAR 80.
I was asst. S4 for MAJ Sam Whitley and MAJ Paul St. Laurent.
Hung mostly with the aviators (MAJ Whitney Echols was airfield CDR) and
my good Turkish friend, Seit (worked with Abdullah and the engineers).
Have recently been in contact with Abdullah and got Seit's phone #.
If I can't get him by phone, is there someone still in Sinop who could
send me an email for Seit? He was about 20 yrs old in 1979.
Even his snail mail address would be most helpful.
Cok Keshidirum.
Rick Deitz
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Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:59:06 -0400
From: charles rodrigues crodrigues@twcny.rr.com
Subject: Don McFeaters......From DOOL 179 articleI'm trying to reach Donald McFeaters who had an article in DOOL179.
This is in reference to the name of David Cross.
I tried the phone and email address of Donald, but cannot reach him.If you read this Donald, please contact me at crodrigues@twcny.rr.com or 315-487-1195.
I would like to try to get more info to be able to reach Dave Cross.
Also, Frank Andrews would like to contact him. I can supply Frank's adress, also.Charlie Rodrigues Sinop 59-60!
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Subject: Alumni
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 00:46:37 +0200
From: "Clayton, Kimberly" Kimberly.Clayton@hlag.com
I was stationed there in Sinop Jan 1974 - Jan 1975.
98J10
Trick 4 (the best of them all)
Floor op, recorder op, and DSIF guru.
Transferred to SAD III at USASAFSK and became 98J30 as a SP4.
Retired after 23 1/2 yrs as a 96B4LGM (15 years in Germany).
Was down at the 'new' knife shop on Attaturk Blvd (road runs down to Yeni Hotel) during Ramadan.
A guy pulls up in an imported Ford Capri, comes in, and proceeds to start pouring J&B scotch.
He said if anyone comes in, hide the booze.
Scared the doo out of me.
Did not want to share a prison cell with that dumb guy that tried to take a few kilos of hash out with him.
On his last day in country, 1SG tells this kid if he's got anything, dump it, because the Krut police are coming with dogs.
"Sure, Top....sure".
He spent a year in prison awaiting his trial.
He was freed on the 50th anniversary of Turkeys independence from the Empire along with 249 other
'political' prisoners.
The next day the US dollar devaluated against the Krut Lira from 14 to 13.85 to the dollar.
Makes you go "Hmmmmmm".
Regards,
KC Clayton
Port/Terminal Operations
Hapag Lloyd (America), Inc.
401 E. Jackson Street
Tampa, Florida 33602
Tel: 813-276-5356
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Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:59:32 EDT
From: SSGPapaSmurf@aol.com
Subject: SSG Michael C. Sayers, Sinop from 1982-1983
Hello, I was at Sinop from 1982 - 1983. I was a 98J. Trick chief, and Senior Site Analst.
Some of you will remember me as Papa Smurf...I'm with NSA now and live at:
714 Parkway DR. Littlestown Pa. 17340, 717-359-7456.
My e-mail address is ssgpapasmurf@aol.com
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From: HITHEM@aol.com
To: sinop2@eccoh.com
Subject: Sinop 1970-71
Hi -
I was at Sinop from 1970-71 and worked at the Hippodrome commcenter. I guess they
thought I was a natural for the job as I had worked at BH II in Chitose Japan, 'Igloo'.
I liked it out there - you could get step outside at 0400 and get a good view of the
Black Sea at sunrise. (was a 72B, CommCen Specialist).
After Sinop, I got out of the army and went back to college. Finding it hard to get a job
with a history degree, I went back into the ASA (1975) and was sent to DLI
to study Arabic. I was subsequently sent to the 101st ABD, 265th ASA Co. I retired
in 1991 after Desert Storm and did some space-A travel and odd jobs until 2001,
when I applied around for a job. I got a job with the NSA as an Arab linguist and
have been there since 2002 it's great work and sure beats some of my post army
jobs such as working at a grocery store carrying out groceries.
ASA - All the way..
Dan HeglandUSASA/INSCOM 1967-1971; 1975-1991
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Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 11:04:54 -0400
From: KENNETH M LONG res18svv@verizon.net
To: sinop2@eccoh.com
Subject: Address change for Ken Long
I have a new e-mail, it is now ken.long4@verizon.netmailto:ken.long4@verizon.net
Thanks Ken Long
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Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:32:31 +0000
From: dittybop@att.net
To: sinop2@eccoh.com
Subject: email address changeHello;
I am William Peak. I am changing to Verizon broadband and need to change my email address.
It will be as follows: dittybop6063@yahoo.com
Thank you.
Bill Peak
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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 01:01:13 +0300
From: yusuf.ckr@gmail.com
To: sinop2@eccoh.com
Subject: from Sinop!..
*Hi!..*
*I'm Yusuf Cakir from Sinop.I am 22 years old now,and when TUSLOG Detachment
4 was closed,i was 7years old;so i can hardly remember it,but i heard much
about it.while i was searching for Sinop pics on the net,i found your pics
in **www.pics.com* <http://www.pics.com/>* .To say the truth i can not think
of finding that old pics on the net.I enjoyed those pics very
much.Mygrandfather,named as me,was a driver in TUSLOG Detachment 4,and
retired from
TUSLOG Detachment 4.Then, my father had worked in TUSLOG Detachment 4 till
it was closed.I like searhing history of last decades,and i admire the
change on cities and people.*
*I'm a university student stduying in ELT(English Language Teaching),and i
need your help to improve my English.*
*I can't know what to write now.But thank you very much for that pics of
sinop which i can't find anywhere else.*
*If you want to write me,i will be very pleased.*
**
*:))*
**
*you can also use my MSN address:**yusuf.ckr@hotmail.com*yusuf.ckr@hotmail.com
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Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 16:14:53 -0700
From: "Lyons. Robert" LyonsR@saccounty.net
Subject: tour of duty det66-1
Just found this site and wanted to log on.
Served in det66/1 1960-61.at the xmitter site down the hill.
Still in touch with at least one vet from the Hill and would like to hear from others especially in the Calif
area.
rlyons@surewest.net
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Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2007 08:23:17 -0500
Subject: Sinop.. Tuslog Det 66-1 Web site update!!
From: Ken Kushi kkushi@msn.com
I just wanted to update my Sinop Det 66-1 web site address.
http://users.adelphia.net/~kkushi/tuslog_det_66.htmI still have my original site up but now have a new one which I hope to add more info to. I so far I have only contacted 1 person that was there with me.
Ken Kushi
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 12:29:01 -0500
From: Dennis Copeland dencopeland@gmail.com
Subject: sinop vet looking to connect
I've visited the website. it's great. how do I get a spot to upload some
old photos & memories?
I was there 8/65-8/66; worked in S2 as 71B...i in-processed 'everybody' on
the hill at that time, indoctrination, badges and all that stuff.
Col Lewis, then Julian Wells were COs. Maj Perkins XO, Cpt Weiderman S1,
Capt Brow S2. SSGT Paul Hancock worked S2 also.
Anyway, i do have some pix and am in touch with 2 others from that period, looking to connect with others.
--
Dennis Copeland
703-282-3412 (mobile)
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Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 20:56:14 -0500
From: roy nomad@twcny.rr.com
Subject: Sinop 60-61
Hi,
I was stationed on the "hill" from Sept 60 until around June of 61. I worked in ops as a 283 Electronic Warfare Equipment Repair. Great and not so great memories of the place. Great memories of the guys.
Mel Wilcox, Jim Bailey and I were at Monmouth together going through 283 school, They graduated one class ahead of mine and we all were sent to the "hill" Except I arrived a month before them. Great reunion and lots of stories to tell.
I plan on sending some photos of life on the hill soon.
Take care
Roy Van Order
Liverpool NY
Nomad@twcny.rr.com
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Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:04:33 -0500
Subject: Sinop Signal Corp
From: Don Moyer dmoyer1@sbcglobal.net
Hi,
I was stationed in Sinop from May of 1963 through April of 1964. We were
Detachment 66-1 of the Signal Corp and they changed our detachment number to 169 during that time period.
I am attaching a picture of our group that managed the Radio Transmitter
site at the airport. Would also like to see if anyone has any information
of any of them.
They are left to right (Sgt Fowler, SP5 Redding, Myself, Sgt Bill Humble,
Sp5 Ron Zimmerman.
Thanks again for the web site.
Don Moyer
Email is dmoyer1@sbcglobal.net
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From: "Tom O'Brien" trob@atmc.net
Subject: Sinop Turkey
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 10:18:44 -0500
Good Morning: Greetings from NC. We recently learned of this site and furnished information to update the "roster".
We have several items that might be of interest to a collector of Sinop Memories. We purchased Canon camera's while there and spent almost every decent weekend taking photo's. Unfortunately these are slides but in Kodak Carousel containers. We have no real use for them, our memories are vivid enough!! Still have old patches, etc and some other "junk".. My gold bracelets are not included!!
If you are interested, will start "rounding it up".
Also I have a "what is it?", will send in a separate message.
Have a great day MSG A. O'BRIEN (ret)
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From: "Tom O'Brien" trob@atmc.net
Subject: A Turkish puzzle
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 10:26:56 -0500
Hello again: Do you have the slightest idea what this is?? It is very roughly made with sharp edges so it could not be worn on the person - Maybe a Turkish soldier might - It had been worn on something as the cord is frayed from wear. Could it be a goat bell??
Any idea will be appreciated. A. O'B
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